Author: odell hall
Date: 21:20:11 01/11/00
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On January 11, 2000 at 23:26:18, Dann Corbit wrote: >On January 11, 2000 at 23:15:27, odell hall wrote: >[snip] >> Bruce you are kidding right? In the above tirade you make it sound like i >>just began a campaign to randomly insult people! Is it at all possible that >>some of the ugly remarks made in the above were provoked? This is exactly what >>I am talking about, in this forum someone is insulted, when the victim decides >>to "fight back", then ironically the victim is made out to be the bad guy. >>Which is ass-backwards, Especially since we all know it is simply human nature >>to fight back when attacked, our natural response is to react when injured. If >>the moderators did their job to begin with, and deleted any post of an offensive >>or vulgar nature (regardless of who it is) then it would be unneccesary to >>respond in this way. > >The problem was not that you responded it was the way in which you responded. >Here is the precise notice that I sent to you when suspension was required, >mailed 11/29/99 at 5:29 PM: > >"Odell, > >We have found it necessary to suspend your account for a period of one month. >Despite repeated warnings, you have continued to flaunt the charter of CCC by >the use of abusive language in your postings. > >Normally, you are an interesting poster with intelligent questions and an asset >to the CCC community. However, of late, you seem to have developed a strange >penchant for the use of salty language. While it is only reasonable to defend >ourselves when attacked or provoked, in any civilized setting, there are >standards that must be adhered to. For instance, if someone calls me a >"blooming idiot", it is not acceptable for me to pull out a knife and stab him. >In a similar vein, it is not acceptable to respond to something you feel is >unacceptable in a manner that violates the charter of the Computer Chess Club. >In addition, several of your recent posts appear on the surface to be aimed at >instigation rather than discussion. > >After the stated period of one month, I am quite sure that you will come to your >senses and once again become the interesting contributor to CCC that we have >come to know and love. > >- Dann Corbit, CCC moderator." > >Therefore, you are fully aware that you were not suspended for defending >yourself but for the manner in which the defense was presented. > >> You said yourself that you argued for my suspension being >>a month instead of three, because you thought i might have been picked on?? I >>wonder what gave you that impression?? Could it be my rather innocent article >>about Chess programmers who refuse to make the programs available to the >>public?? By the way I read my article to over fifteen people who are not part >>of this forum not one person found anything insulting or offensive in my >>article. What the consensus was from these people was that I was dealing with a >>bunch of nuts, based on some of the responses here I would have to agree. > >You would be astonished to have seen the way that Bruce went to bat for you. > >>You do >>seem overly zealous to boot me out the group when I respond to a insult, I wish >>you would prosecute with equal Zeal those who would use derrogatory remarks >>against me. Until you do this the only thing I will learn is just how >>hypocritical this place is. > >Why are you still here then? No my comments were not directed against bruce, I assumed that bruce was not the one who got me suspended, since I had a exchange of emails with him explaining that my ugly language was an "Accident" literally speaking. What happened is that I said alot of things in anger, and when I tried to cancel the post I had discovered that I had accidently hit the follow up. This is obvious what happened because my sentense was left in thin air. Bruce understood this, unfortunately i thought the matter was over, only to get thee above notice from you. So no I was not , I am not angry with bruce at all. As you know dann the two years I have been here I have not issued an insult to anyone, but after that one particular incident when the whole group jumped on me for no reason calling me all kinds of names, and the moderators did nothing. I just got fed up. I am only human. The reason I am still here is because of my obession with computer chess, so I am willing to take almost anything to keep up with the developments. And I don't particularly like rgcc. But I don't post that much, because of late everything I say, is attacked. So I prefer just to sit back and listen to everyone else fight. The mistake I made orignally was to challenge DR> Hyatt. You just can't do that at this group and get away with it, you will have all kinds of enemies.
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