Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 05:22:09 01/12/00
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On January 11, 2000 at 22:37:42, Christophe Theron wrote:
>On January 11, 2000 at 18:45:51, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On January 10, 2000 at 16:24:38, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>
>>>On January 10, 2000 at 16:06:06, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>
>>>>Very good Thorsten. You have my admiration.
>>>>
>>>>Ed
>>>
>>>after the dozens of ironic and sarcastic statements following
>>>the posting of the first game i am a little unsure
>>>how you meant it ed :-)))
>>>where are your smileys ? :-)))
>>>
>>>whatever.
>>>
>>>games runs and diep has NOW book enough, even in petroff-defense.
>>>
>>>we are in 8th move and still diep is in book, meanwhile tiger
>>>has NO book.
>>>
>>>Hope tiger is not running into a trap from book.
>>>that would in my opinions cause again dozens of posts complaining
>>>and suggesting there is a kind of cheating... oh yes.
>>
>>Diep tournament book is very small. no killerlines in it yet, just preventing
>>to play horrible lines which are in the automatically generated book as
>>'playable'.
>>
>>The automatic generated book only plays a move if a line is played
>>over 5 times and basically the chance that a move gets played is a simplistic
>>function of the number of times it it played.
>>
>>Very hard to call that 'general knowledge' killerlines, especially
>>when you know that i didn't change a byte myself from the big book. it's
>>all automatically generated. Tiger CAN however make major mistakes when
>>playing a difficult position where general audience knows some moves
>>are better than others. Most important is that Tiger doesn't have the
>>big Jeroen Noomen killerbook.
>
>
>Jeroen's book is not a killerbook. If you call it this way I wonder why you
>don't call other chess program's books "slaughterbooks" or "genocidbooks".
>
>Not inserting killer lines in your own book is what I would call a fair
>behaviour, but calling Jeroen's a "killerbook" is not.
>
>It is overkill as anyway Tiger is playing without book in this match.
>
>So what?
Ship Tiger to SSDF without book please.
>
> Christophe
>
>
>
>
>>>i have always asked myself why jaap van den herik is
>>>having so much problems deciding wise and cool, now i feel by own
>>>experience why it is so difficult to defend your point
>>>of views concerning your decisions in public :-)))
>>>sorry jaap :-))
>>
>>
>>
>>>Oh - diep computes in move 9 !
>>>
>>>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3
>>>Be7 7. o-o o-o 8. Re1 {last book-move diep} Nc6 9. *
>>>
>>>so diep evaluates this +0.35 meanwhile tiger says
>>>-0.18.
>>>
>>>May the best program win !
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