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Subject: Re: Moderation: The moderators create problems.

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 10:36:34 01/12/00

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On January 12, 2000 at 10:28:01, Jeff Anderson wrote:

>I thought the point of the moderators was to keep things getting into out of
>control nonsense, but instead the moderators seem to very much enjoy
>contributing to the nerdly CCC soap opera.  They start entire new threads about
>a post they have deleted and why they have deleted, and then they reply to that
>thread themselves before anyone else.  They announce members that have been
>suspended in long overly-dramatic public letters.  They participate in big
>arguments about what dirty word someone has said, or which phrase was
>politically incorrect.  They bicker more than anyone else in this entire forum.
>Generally the moderators are the biggest contributor to mammouth off-topic
>threads.
> The moderators are doing a bad job, and actually causing more problems for CCC
>than would occur if they did not exist at all.  The moderators should err on the
>side of sins of ommision rather than sins of comission.
>I realize this post itself may contribute to the clutter on the CCC message
>board, but I hope it is a first step in returning things to a state where the
>moderators do not feel it is there duty to post their every thought publicly,
>and create a problem much bigger than if they did not exist at all.

There has been an excess of response in some recent cases.

I don't believe we've made any announcements when people have been suspended,
and perhaps we can be criticized for this, although it is the opposite of your
concern.  I replied to Odell Hall regarding his, because he made it a public
issue.

The thread suggesting that two members be banned should have been immediately
deleted, in hindsight.

This kind of thing goes in cycles, and assuming that my co-moderators are
willing to stop, and various other people are willing to stop, the only traces
of this in a few days will be the archives.

I don't think there is any easy way to handle moderation.  If you decide you
want no moderation, you get an influx of net-stalkers, people who want to repeat
the same rant constantly, off-topic bickering, etc., and we would still get
these incredibly long angry threads, with the added problem that the threads
might never actually end.  CCC was founded by people from r.g.c.c.,
specificially to avoid the problems evident there.

It is possible to go the other direction as well, I'm very concerned that we'll
eventually undergo a period where posts will be deleted and people will be
banned for simple disagreement with majority positions.

bruce



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