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Subject: Re: Moderation: The moderators create problems.

Author: Fernando Villegas

Date: 13:43:01 01/12/00

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On January 12, 2000 at 12:46:02, Terry Presgrove wrote:

>On January 12, 2000 at 11:26:14, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>>On January 12, 2000 at 11:10:28, Pete Galati wrote:
>>
>>>On January 12, 2000 at 10:28:01, Jeff Anderson wrote:
>>>
>>>>I thought the point of the moderators was to keep things getting into out of
>>>>control nonsense, but instead the moderators seem to very much enjoy
>>>>contributing to the nerdly CCC soap opera.  They start entire new threads about
>>>>a post they have deleted and why they have deleted, and then they reply to that
>>>>thread themselves before anyone else.  They announce members that have been
>>>>suspended in long overly-dramatic public letters.  They participate in big
>>>>arguments about what dirty word someone has said, or which phrase was
>>>>politically incorrect.  They bicker more than anyone else in this entire forum.
>>>>Generally the moderators are the biggest contributor to mammouth off-topic
>>>>threads.
>>>> The moderators are doing a bad job, and actually causing more problems for CCC
>>>>than would occur if they did not exist at all.  The moderators should err on the
>>>>side of sins of ommision rather than sins of comission.
>>>>I realize this post itself may contribute to the clutter on the CCC message
>>>>board, but I hope it is a first step in returning things to a state where the
>>>>moderators do not feel it is there duty to post their every thought publicly,
>>>>and create a problem much bigger than if they did not exist at all.
>>>>
>>>>Jeff
>>>
>>>If you don't want moderators, then here's your forum:
>>>
>>>news:rec.games.chess.computer
>>>
>>>no moderators there, hope you'll be happy
>>
>>Dear Pete:
>>With due respect and friendship, I think you are wrong in this. That kind of
>>argument remember me when in my country ruled Pinochet, a dictator, and then
>>when somebody complained, rightist people used to say "if you do not like the
>>country, go away!". Well, not that there is a dictatorship in CCC, but surely it
>>could seems to be IF people that does not like something are invited to go. In
>>general I have no problems with post of any kind, from moderators or non
>>moderators, about chess computer or off topic, with "dirty" words or without:
>>just if something does not please me, I stop reading and let the thread - if
>>there is one- without the bleasing of my knowledge. So I do not care if
>>moderators begin or not long threads. Sometimes even they are amusing. But I do
>>care of the right of anybody here to say he does not like how things are going
>>on or asking a new constitutional ground. This is specially truth considering a
>>new moderators panel will be chosen in some weeks from now on. You must
>>undersratand, Pete, that somebody could like to be here but at the same time
>>not to like something. I do not see conflict between both things and so
>>unnecesary to invite him to go.
>>Cheers
>>fernando
>
> Hi......Fernando,
>
>  I've not posted in awhile for various reasons, but I have contiued to read
> posts almost daily. I think the Moderators have actually done a pretty good
> job in recent months. In the beginning the current group seemed a little
> to quick to hit the delete button for my tastes IMHO. But this is a moderated
> forum and heaven knows one man's trash is anothers treasure. So there will
> always be friction, controversy and cries of unfair treatment where men/women
> (moderators) have to make decisions on what is acceptable behavior. I would
> like to take this time to thank the Moderators for their serving this past
> year. It is a demandng, thankless job and anyone who thinks he/she wants it
> needs to check into the nearest sanitarium......:)This is an important time
> for everyone at CCC. I hope everyone does their homework and votes !!
>
>
> TP


Hi:
Basically I agree with you. My only point is that, at the same time we apreciate
the job made by moderators, we must sustain without pain any argument againts
his perfomance. I thought Peter was like inviting a guy to go, but he say it was
not so, then Its Ok for me now.
fernando



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