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Subject: Re: number of pawn positions in chess...

Author: Jeremiah Penery

Date: 01:31:18 01/13/00

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On January 13, 2000 at 02:54:31, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:

>On January 12, 2000 at 18:34:49, Dan Ellwein wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>
>>Just wanted to bounce this off of the group and see if this is an accurate
>>representation of how many (non redundant) pawn positions there are in chess...
>>
>>
>>(0,8)(1,7)(2,6)(3,5)(4,4) 8P 48x47x46x45x44x43x42x41  x5 = _______
>>(0,7)(1,6)(2,5)(3,4)      7P 48X47X46X45X44X43X42     x4 = _______
>>(0,6)(1,5)(2,4)(3,3)      6p 48X47X46X45X44X43        x4 = _______
>>(0,5)(1,4)(2,3)           5P 48x47x46x45x44           x3 = _______
>>(0,4)(1,3)(2,2)           4P 48x47x46x45              x3 = _______
>>(0,3)(1,2)                3P 48x47x46                 x2 = _______
>>(0,2)(1,1)                2P 48x47                    x2 = _______
>>(0,1)                     1P 48                       x1 = _______
>>
>>
>>Number of non redundant pawn postions in chess  --  TOTAL: _______
>>
>>haven't done the math on it yet, but it looks like about 75 trillion...
>>
>>thanks...
>>
>>PilgrimDan
>
>
>Dan,
>
>I don't think the "a" pawn is going to end up on the e,f,g,or h files and don't
>forget that the black pawns prevent occupation except by capture of the white
>pawns. You also have to account for en passant which usually occurs only once
>per game at most.
>
>[D] 8/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/8

Also, you must account for positions such as:

[D]4k3/8/8/PPPPPPPP/ppp1pppp/8/8/4K3

(I think that's a reachable one...I tried to construct a game just now to make
sure, but I couldn't figure it out exactly.  I've done it before, but I'm not
sure if this is the exact position.



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