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Subject: Re: Nolot Bxh7 and deep thought/deep blue

Author: Jeremiah Penery

Date: 09:37:54 01/13/00

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On January 13, 2000 at 07:49:19, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On January 13, 2000 at 02:19:29, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>
>>On January 12, 2000 at 16:15:27, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>
>>>On January 12, 2000 at 13:43:10, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 12, 2000 at 10:02:08, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Let's zoom into position #8 not found by Deep Thought
>>>>>
>>>>[D]r3rbk1/ppq2ppp/2b1pB2/8/6Q1/1P1B3P/P1P2PP1/R2R2K1 w - - bm Bxh7; 8
>>>>>
>>>>>This position is of course in nolot as PC programs don't extend such
>>>>>lines too deeply. Just like the other nolots it only has to do with
>>>>>king safety and a lot of forced moves around the king.
>>>>>
>>>>>[c] ==> check extension
>>>>>[s] ==> singular best move extension
>>>>>[f] ==> forced move (a forced move is singular too) extension
>>>>>
>>>>>the TACTICAL line needed to find Bxh7:
>>>>>
>>>>>Bxh7+     Kxh7[c]
>>>>>Qh5+      Kg8[c]
>>>>>Rd4[s]    gf6[f]
>>>>
>>>>Hsu points out that gxf6 is bad, and suggests that Bf3! holds.
>>>>
>>>>bruce
>>>>
>>>>>Rg4+[s]   Bg7[c]
>>>>>Qh6[s]    Kf8[f]
>>>>>Rxg7      Rec8
>>>>>Qxf6      Be4[f]     (otherwise rh7-h8 mate)
>>>>>Rae1[s]   Bf5[f]
>>>>>g4[s]     Bxc2[f]
>>>>>Rxe6[f]   Bd3
>>>>>Rg6[c]    Qc1+
>>>>>Kh2[c]    Qc7+
>>>>>f4[c]     Qc2+
>>>>>Kg3[c]    <any legal move>
>>>>>Qh8 mates in quiescencesearch.
>>>
>>>Mine finds this now.  The line in ply 15 after 2.5 hours is:
>>>
>>>+0.75 Bxh7+ Kxh7 Qh5+ Kg8 Rd4 Bf3 gxf3 Qxc2
>>
>>Instead of Qxc2 here, I think black may still be able to save it with Qc5.  I'm
>>interested to know what Ferret thinks of this.
>
>Not hard to tell. it's a full pawn up then, what do you think it will say then?

Being a pawn up doesn't necessarily give you a win.  Especially since white has
an isolated h-pawn and his f-pawns are doubled.  I think black has good drawing
chances.



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