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Subject: Re: Tiger - Diep, game 2:

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 15:59:26 01/13/00

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On January 13, 2000 at 17:04:01, Chessfun wrote:

>On January 13, 2000 at 15:37:28, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On January 13, 2000 at 14:10:01, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>>
>>>On January 13, 2000 at 14:02:44, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 13, 2000 at 09:14:09, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>[Event "Tiger-Diep match"]
>>>>>[Site "k6-400"]
>>>>>[Date "2000.01.12"]
>>>>>[Round "2"]
>>>>>[White "Chess Tiger 12.0e"]
>>>>>[Black "Diep2"]
>>>>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>>>>[Opening ""]
>>>>>
>>>>>{}
>>>>>1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Nf6 3.Nc3 Nc6 4.a3 Nxe4 5.Nxe4 d5 6.Bd3 dxe4 7.Bxe4 Nd4 8.c3 Qh4
>>>>>9.d3
>>>>>Bg4 10.Qa4+
>>>>>Bd7 11.Qd1 Bg4 12.Qa4+ Bd7 13.Qd1 Bg4 1/2-1/2
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>And now ???
>>>>>
>>>>>it seems diep always replays the book moves, and
>>>>>tiger without book is not learning.
>>>>>so - how often shall i reproduce the 2 games ???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hello Thorsten,
>>>>Can you please remind me why Tiger is playing without book?  I'm sure Vincent
>>>>wants this to give his program some advantage but why is it being done?
>>>>Jim Walker
>>>
>>>I think Vincent was whining about how Tiger gets winning positions from book.
>>>In response, Christophe said Tiger would play the match without book, so Vincent
>>>would quit complaining about it.
>>
>>
>>That's right.
>>
>>
>>    Christophe
>
>Would it have made for sense to play say game 1 then at the point
>where Tiger left book reverse colors and play game 2 from this
>exact same position.
>
>This way both would have got a chance to win from this position,
>claimed to be winning positions out of book, then we could have
>seen how strong that statement was or wasn't.
>Thanks.


Yes, there are several ways to avoid getting the same games several times. If
Vincent agrees we can find a way, without modifying the programs.


    Christophe



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