Author: Chessfun
Date: 16:04:33 01/13/00
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On January 13, 2000 at 18:59:26, Christophe Theron wrote:
>On January 13, 2000 at 17:04:01, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On January 13, 2000 at 15:37:28, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On January 13, 2000 at 14:10:01, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 13, 2000 at 14:02:44, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 13, 2000 at 09:14:09, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[Event "Tiger-Diep match"]
>>>>>>[Site "k6-400"]
>>>>>>[Date "2000.01.12"]
>>>>>>[Round "2"]
>>>>>>[White "Chess Tiger 12.0e"]
>>>>>>[Black "Diep2"]
>>>>>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>>>>>[Opening ""]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>{}
>>>>>>1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Nf6 3.Nc3 Nc6 4.a3 Nxe4 5.Nxe4 d5 6.Bd3 dxe4 7.Bxe4 Nd4 8.c3 Qh4
>>>>>>9.d3
>>>>>>Bg4 10.Qa4+
>>>>>>Bd7 11.Qd1 Bg4 12.Qa4+ Bd7 13.Qd1 Bg4 1/2-1/2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And now ???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>it seems diep always replays the book moves, and
>>>>>>tiger without book is not learning.
>>>>>>so - how often shall i reproduce the 2 games ???
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hello Thorsten,
>>>>>Can you please remind me why Tiger is playing without book? I'm sure Vincent
>>>>>wants this to give his program some advantage but why is it being done?
>>>>>Jim Walker
>>>>
>>>>I think Vincent was whining about how Tiger gets winning positions from book.
>>>>In response, Christophe said Tiger would play the match without book, so Vincent
>>>>would quit complaining about it.
>>>
>>>
>>>That's right.
>>>
>>>
>>> Christop33he
>>
>>Would it have made for sense to play say game 1 then at the point
>>where Tiger left book reverse colors and play game 2 from this
>>exact same position.
>>
>>This way both would have got a chance to win from this position,
>>claimed to be winning positions out of book, then we could have
>>seen how strong that statement was or wasn't.
>>Thanks.
>
>
>Yes, there are several ways to avoid getting the same games several times. If
>Vincent agrees we can find a way, without modifying the programs.
>
>
> Christophe
I should maybe have been more specific. What I meant to say is that
instead of playing with no book play both programs with book.
Then after game 1, reverse colors where Tiger left book. This way
were it a killer book that made it strong and not the engine itself
the result would appear more apparent.
Thanks.
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