Author: Enrique Irazoqui
Date: 06:32:35 01/14/00
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On January 14, 2000 at 09:04:51, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On January 14, 2000 at 06:43:27, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: > >>On January 14, 2000 at 06:39:02, Alvaro Polo wrote: >> >>>On January 14, 2000 at 06:36:05, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >>> >>>>On January 14, 2000 at 06:21:04, Alvaro Polo wrote: >>>> >>>>>It is my opinion that Kasparov should play Deep Blue. >>>> >>>>This is off track. Kasparov always wanted the rematch, but IBM dismantled Deep >>>>Blue. Hsu's new machine is not Deep Blue. >>> >>>Ok, Enrique. Deep Blue does not longer exists. But what counts is perception >>>more than reality, many times. >> >>But this is precisely the point. Hsu's new machine is not perceived as IBM's >>Deep Blue by anyone except the few people in computer chess. >> >>Enrique > >I'm not sure I agree... and offer "Seymour Cray" as an example. He left CDC >to design a new and faster machine. He had no problems getting financial >backing as everyone _knew_ he designed the CDC 6600/Cyber 176. He left Cray >Research to build the Cray-2/Cray-3. Again, he had no trouble getting financial >backers. Everyone knew it was the "man" and not the "company" that came up with >the design ideas. > >I think Hsu is exactly the same... From a programmer's point of view it may be the same, but the Kasparov-DB rematch has the whole world as an audience, and in this whole world everyone knows IBM Deep Blue as the machine that beat Kasparov, no one aside from computer chess people and academic circles know Hsu's project. How to justify to them that a new XXX "mystery box" plays the world champion? Put it this way: in this context, Kasparov has nothing to win, everything to lose and then no reason to play. Enrique >>> Hsu has the rights to the chip, he built Deep >>>Blue, and DT before that. This is enough on the minds of people, and on my own >>>mind, to consider the Deep Hsu (if you want)- Kasparov match a must. >>> >>>> >>>>Enrique >>>> >>>>>Why? Because that is what >>>>>the audience is interested on. If you log on ICC when there is a lecture about >>>>>GK-DB you can see lots of people listening there. I would say more people that >>>>>the Khalifman-Leko game or any human-human game. >>>>> >>>>>So the interest is there. Kasparov will find it difficult to find the money to >>>>>defend his title against a human. In fact, the Kasparov-Shirov match didn't >>>>>occur and probably Kasparov-Anand match won't occur. People are interested on >>>>>GK-DB above any other thing and it is difficult and foolish to fight the market. >>>>>Chess, except for a few years, has always been a sport with no money in. If >>>>>Kasparov was WC of any other sport he would be making much more than he is right >>>>>now. So, the interest is on GK-DB and Kasparov probably won't be able to fight >>>>>against that. >>>>> >>>>>Having said this, I understand Kasparov attitude of not helping Hsu find money >>>>>to fund his machine. Hsu wants to wrest the WC away from Kasparov. He shouldn't >>>>>expect any help from Kasparov himself to accomplish this.
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