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Subject: Re: DB doesn't exist

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 10:15:13 01/14/00

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On January 14, 2000 at 12:09:05, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 14, 2000 at 09:25:09, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>
>>On January 14, 2000 at 09:02:05, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On January 14, 2000 at 06:36:05, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 14, 2000 at 06:21:04, Alvaro Polo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>It is my opinion that Kasparov should play Deep Blue.
>>>>
>>>>This is off track. Kasparov always wanted the rematch, but IBM dismantled Deep
>>>>Blue. Hsu's new machine is not Deep Blue.
>>>>
>>>>Enrique
>>>
>>>
>>>DB Jr is still operational.
>>
>>But I don't think this matters. For the whole world, and this is what I think
>>matters, DB junior is not the IBM Deep Blue that beat Kasparov. Would IBM play
>>DB against Kasparov Junior?
>>
>>Enrique
>
>No... but I'll bet that if you call them and say "Hey, I will buy 8 of your
>SP2's with 256 nodes each, but only if you let me play two games vs the real
>DB hardware" then they would be glad to set it up.  Ie "dismantled" is still
>the wrong term.  "Mothballed" is better,  because it _could_ play a game
>with a few hours notice.

OK, since we are already discussing this in this same thread (always a pleasure
:) ),let's make it short. To make the re-match IBM's Deep Blue against Garry
Kasparov, a necessary condition is that IBM's Deep Blue and Garry Kasparov will
play. This condition is missing forever. DB Jr or Kasparov Jr won't do.

Enrique

>>> The DB 'chips' are in a box.  It would only take
>>>a couple of hours to plug them in to a new SP2, another hour to restore the DB
>>>software.
>>>
>>>Saying "dismantled" isn't the word I would use.  "Mothballed" is closer to
>>>the truth.  Or "put it into storage".  It could play, if the right opportunity
>>>came up.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Why? Because that is what
>>>>>the audience is interested on. If you log on ICC when there is a lecture about
>>>>>GK-DB you can see lots of people listening there. I would say more people that
>>>>>the Khalifman-Leko game or any human-human game.
>>>>>
>>>>>So the interest is there. Kasparov will find it difficult to find the money to
>>>>>defend his title against a human. In fact, the Kasparov-Shirov match didn't
>>>>>occur and probably Kasparov-Anand match won't occur. People are interested on
>>>>>GK-DB above any other thing and it is difficult and foolish to fight the market.
>>>>>Chess, except for a few years, has always been a sport with no money in. If
>>>>>Kasparov was WC of any other sport he would be making much more than he is right
>>>>>now. So, the interest is on GK-DB and Kasparov probably won't be able to fight
>>>>>against that.
>>>>>
>>>>>Having said this, I understand Kasparov attitude of not helping Hsu find money
>>>>>to fund his machine. Hsu wants to wrest the WC away from Kasparov. He shouldn't
>>>>>expect any help from Kasparov himself to accomplish this.



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