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Subject: Re: Rebel-Deep Junior 1/2-1/2 ,fritz drew and shredder won.

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 14:20:22 01/14/00

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So did you operate Deep Junior, and Uri operated Rebel Century?  If so, that
must have felt a little strange. :)

Dave

On January 14, 2000 at 15:51:47, Amir Ban wrote:

>On January 14, 2000 at 10:25:15, blass uri wrote:
>
>>The game was drawn.
>>
>>Rebel did not remember the analysis of the begining of the game because someone
>>was not careful and caused a power failure for Rebel so I had to reproduce the
>>first 15 moves moves manually.
>>
>>Fritz drew against an unknown player in an endgame.
>>
>>shredder won against a better player(IM gur mitelman)
>>
>>Here is the game of Rebel
>>
>>Junior went wrong by Bf6 when Rebel expected f5
>>The position in the game is hard for computers to understand
>>
>
>The game is hard for computers, but I thought that throughout the game Junior
>had a better understanding of the position. It showed equality in the opening,
>built a tiny advantage after 20.b6 (maximum was 0.23), which disappeared around
>move 35, after which it showed mostly draw scores.
>
>I was not impressed by Century in this game. It locked the position to its
>disadvantage, showed plus scores while shuffling pieces on the locked queenside,
>and started showing +1 scores when it sniffed capturing the b7 pawn, though the
>position is a foregone draw. It looked like a typical human vs. computer game,
>except that the "human" here was a computer too.
>
>Some comments overheard during the game:
>
>GM Michael Oratovski, on 20.b6 : Only a computer would play such a move.
>
>GM Lev Psakhis, after 22... Bf5 : Black has a big advantage, but he doesn't
>believe it's winnable.
>
>GM Lev Psakhis, after 32. Kh2 : Exchanging on g3 was a mistake. Black should
>have put a knight on h4, though he's not sure how to continue from there. I
>asked him if all rooks are exchanged, does white lose because he can't protect
>e3 ? He said not necessarily, as white has counterchances in a bishop sac on c6.
>
>IM Sofie Polgar, after 33. Raa1 : Black's position is not as good as a few moves
>ago.
>
>It was Almog Burstein who pulled Rebel's power cord. He's a former league
>committee chairman and the one that banned Junior from the league two years ago.
>In comparison to what he did to Junior, his damage to Rebel is minimal.
>
>Amir
>
>
>>[Event "?"]
>>[Site "?"]
>>[Date "1999.01.14"]
>>[Round "?"]
>>[White "CENTURY"]
>>[Black "DEEP Junior "]
>>[Result "*"]
>>[WhiteElo "?"]
>>[BlackElo "?"]
>>[ECO "A45"]
>>
>>1. d4 { 00:00:03  8.00  0.01  d4 d5 Nf3 Nf6 Ne5 Nbd7 Bf4 Nxe5 Bxe5  (c)
>>} 1... Nf6 { 00:00:00  6.00  -0.14  d5 Nf3 Bf5 Nc3 e6 Ne5  (c) } 2. c3
>>{ 00:00:01  6.02  0.08  c4 e6 Nc3 d5 cxd5 exd5 Bg5  (c) } 2... g6 { 00:00:00
>> 6.00  -0.01  d5 Nf3 Bf5 Ne5 Nbd7 Nd2  (c) } 3. Bg5 { 00:00:00  6.01  0.08
>> c4 d6 Nc3 Bf5 Bg5 Bg7  (c) } 3... Bg7 { 00:00:01  6.02  0.02  Bg7 Nd2
>>h6 Bxf6 Bxf6 e4 d5  (c) } 4. e3 { 00:00:00  6.00  0.00  Nd2 d5 e3 h6 Bf4
>>Ne4  (c) } 4... d6 { 00:00:00  6.00  0.10  O-O Bd3 d5 Nd2 h6 Bf4 Bg4 f3
>>Bf5  (c) } 5. Bd3 { 00:00:00  5.00  0.14  Nd2 O-O e4 Bg4 Be2  (c) } 5...
>>Nbd7 { 00:00:00  5.00  0.02  O-O Nd2 d5 c4 h6 Bxf6 Bxf6 cxd5 Qxd5  (c)
>>} 6. Nd2 { 00:00:01  6.01  0.14  Nd2 O-O Ne2 Nb6 O-O Bg4  (c) } 6... c6
>>{ 00:00:01  6.00  -0.09  O-O Ne2 h6 Bh4 d5 O-O c5  (c) } 7. Ne2 { 00:00:01
>> 6.00  0.23  Ne2 h6 Bh4 Nb6 O-O Bg4  (c) } 7... Qa5 { 00:00:01  6.00  -0.16
>> O-O O-O Nb6 a4 Bg4 a5 Bxe2 Bxe2  (c) } 8. Bf4 { 00:00:03  6.03  0.29
>>Bf4 e5 Bg3 Qc7 O-O  (c) } 8... e5 { 00:00:01  5.01  -0.17  O-O e4 Nb6 b4
>>Qh5 O-O  (c) } 9. Bg3 { 00:00:00  5.00  0.26  Bg3 b5 O-O O-O c4  (c) }
>>9... O-O { 00:00:01  5.00  -0.13  O-O O-O Qc7 c4 d5  (c) } 10. O-O { 00:00:01
>> 5.00  0.41  O-O b5 b4 Qa3 Qb3 Qxb3 axb3 Nd5  (c) } 10... Nh5 { 00:00:00
>> 4.02  -0.20  b5 b4 Qa3 Qb3 Qxb3 axb3 Nd5  (c) } 11. Bh4 { 00:00:01  5.00
>> 0.24  e4 d5 Nb3 Qb6 f4  (c) } 11... d5 { 00:00:01  5.00  -0.13  d5 Nb3
>>Qc7 Ng3 Bf6 Bxf6 Nhxf6 f3  (c) } 12. a4 { 00:00:01  5.02  0.20  c4 Qb6
>>Qb3 f5 dxe5 Qxb3 Nxb3 Nxe5  (c) } 12... e4 { 00:00:01  6.00  -0.05  e4
>>Bc2 f5 Be7 Re8 Bb4 Qa6 Bd6  (c) } 13. Bc2 { 00:00:01  6.00  0.16  Bc2 f5
>>Be7 Rf7 Bb4 Qa6 Bd6  (c) } 13... Bf6 { 00:00:01  6.00  -0.13  f5 Be7 Re8
>>Bd6 Qa6 Nb3  (c) } 14. Bxf6 { 00:00:01  6.00  0.27  Bxf6 Nhxf6 c4 Qb4 Bb3
>>a5 cxd5 cxd5  (c) } 14... Ndxf6 { 00:00:01  6.00  -0.28  Nhxf6 c4 Ne8 Rc1
>>f5 cxd5 cxd5 Bb3  (c) } 15. h3 { 00:00:00  5.00  0.25  c4 Qb4 cxd5 cxd5
>>Nb3 Bd7  (c) } 15... Re8 16. b4 { 00:01:24 10.00  0.20  b4 Qc7 c4 dxc4
>>Nxc4 Nd5 Qd2 f5 Rac1 Be6 Ne5  (c) } 16... Qc7 17. c4 { 00:00:00 10.21
>>0.16  c4 a5 bxa5 Rxa5 Rc1 dxc4 Nxc4 Rg5 h4 Rg4  (c) } 17... Qd6 18. b5
>>{ 00:05:57 10.00  0.23  b5 Bd7 Rb1 cxb5 axb5 Rac8 c5 Qc7 b6 axb6 Rxb6
>>(c) } 18... a6 19. c5 { 00:00:54 10.00  0.24  c5 Qc7 b6 Qe7 a5 Ng7 Ng3
>>Be6 Qe2 Bf5  (c) } 19... Qd8 20. b6 { 00:01:08 10.00  0.18  b6 Ng7 a5 Nfh5
>>Ra3 Qg5 f4 Qh4 Qe1 Qxe1 Rxe1 Bf5  (c) } 20... Ng7 21. Ra3 { 00:01:42 10.09
>> 0.18  Ra3 Be6 a5  (c) } 21... Bd7 22. a5 { 00:03:15 10.00  0.20  a5 Be6
>>Nf4 Bf5 Ra1 Nd7 Ne2 Ne6 Ng3 Qh4  (c) } 22... Bf5 23. Ng3 { 00:03:17 10.02
>> 0.23  Ng3 Be6 f3 Qb8 Qe1 exf3 Nxf3 Nfh5  (c) } 23... Qb8 24. Nxf5 { 00:01:24
>>10.00  0.27  Nxf5 Nxf5 Qe2 h6 Rfa1 Nh7 Nf1 Ng5 Qg4  (c) } 24... Nxf5 25.
>>Qe2 { 00:00:55 11.00  0.23  Qe2 Nd7 Ra2 Ng7 g3  (c) } 25... h5 26. Rfa1
>>{ 00:02:15 10.00  0.37  Rfa1 Nh7 Qe1  (c) } 26... Re6 27. R3a2 { 00:02:14
>>10.01  0.37  R3a2 Re8 Nf1 Nh7 Qe1  (c) } 27... Nd7 28. Nf1 { 00:02:41 10.00
>> 0.37  Nf1 Ng7 Ra4 Rf6 Rb1 Rf5 Rab4 h4 g3  (c) } 28... Qd8 29. Ng3 { 00:01:00
>>10.00  0.38  Ng3 Nxg3 fxg3 Qg5 Qe1  (c) } 29... Nxg3 30. fxg3 { 00:00:00
>>12.00  0.33  fxg3 Qg5 Kh2 Rf6 Rb1 Re8 Raa1  (c) } 30... Qg5 31. Kh2 { 00:02:23
>>12.00  0.34  Kh2 Rf6 Rb1 h4 Qe1 hxg3+ Qxg3 Qxg3+ Kxg3  (c) } 31... Rf6
>>32. Rb1 { 00:01:03 11.00  0.39  Rb1 h4 gxh4 Qxh4 Qe1 Qxe1 Rxe1 Kg7 Bd1
>>Rh8 Bg4 Nf8  (c) } 32... Re8 33. Raa1 { 00:02:13 11.00  0.38  Raa1 h4 gxh4
>>Qxh4 Rf1 Kg7 Rxf6 Nxf6 Kg1 Nh5 Qf2 Qxf2+ Kxf2  (c) } 33... Ree6 34. Bb3
>>{ 00:02:47 12.00  0.34  Bb3 Rf5 Rf1 Rxf1 Rxf1 Rf6 Rd1 Rf5 Rd2 f6 Rd1 Nf8
>> (c) } 34... Rf5 35. Rf1 { 00:00:00 13.03  0.30  Rf1 Rxf1 Rxf1 Rf6 Ra1
>> (c) } 35... Rxf1 36. Rxf1 { 00:00:00 14.00  0.27  Rxf1 Rf6 Rf4 Rxf4  (c)
>>} 36... Rf6 37. Rf4 { 00:00:15 12.00  0.29  Rf4 Rxf4 gxf4 Qd8  (c) } 37...
>>Kf8 38. Rh4 { 00:01:59 12.00  0.39  Rh4 Rf5 Bd1 Qf6 Kg1 Qg7 Bc2 Ke8  (c)
>>} 38... Rf5 39. Qe1 { 00:01:32 13.00  0.41  Qe1 Kg7 Bd1 Nf6 Kg1  (c) }
>>39... Nf6 40. Bd1 { 00:02:35 13.00  0.40  Bd1 Kg7 Kg1 Ng8  (c) } 40...
>>Kg7 41. Kg1 { 00:00:55 12.00  0.52  Kg1 Ng8 g4 Rf6 gxh5 Nh6 Bg4 Nxg4 hxg4
>>gxh5 gxh5 Rf3 Kh2 Qxe3 Qxe3 Rxe3  (c) } 41... Ng8 42. g4 { 00:00:33 13.00
>> 0.45  g4 Rf6 gxh5 Nh6 g3 Nf5 Rf4 gxh5 Kh2 Rg6 g4 hxg4 Bxg4 Rf6  (c) }
>>42... Rf6 43. gxh5 { 00:00:00 14.02  0.70  gxh5 Nh6 Bg4 Nxg4 Rxg4 Qxh5
>>Qg3 Qf5 Rf4 Qe6 Rh4 Qf5 Kh2 g5  (c) } 43... Nh6 44. Bg4 { 00:00:00 14.00
>> 1.06  Bg4 Nxg4 Rxg4 Qxh5 Qg3 Rf5 Qb8 Qh6 Rf4 Rxf4 exf4  (c) } 44... Nxg4
>>45. Rxg4 { 00:00:00 15.00  0.94  Rxg4 Qxh5 Qg3 Rf5  (c) } 45... Qxh5 46.
>>Qg3 { 00:00:00 14.04  0.36  Qg3 Rf5 Qc7 Qh6 Rf4 Rxf4 exf4 Qh4 Qxb7 e3+
>>Qc7 Qf2+ Kh2 e2 Qe5+ Kh7+ b7  (c) } 46... Rf5 47. Qc7 { 00:00:33 13.00
>> 0.38  Qc7 Qh6 Rf4 Rxf4 exf4 Qh4 Qxb7 e3+ Qc7 Qf2+ Kh2 e2 Qe5+ Kh7+ b7
>> (c) } 47... Qh6 48. Rf4 { 00:00:00 12.03  0.00  Rf4 Rxf4 exf4 Qh4 Qxb7
>>e3  (c) } 48... Rxf4 49. exf4 { 00:00:00 12.00  0.08  exf4 Qh5 Qxb7 e3
>>Kh2 Qd1 Qe7 e2 b7+ e1=Q  (c) } 49... Qh4 50. Qxb7 { 00:01:05 11.00  0.00
>> Qxb7 e3 Qc7 Qf2+ Kh2 e2 Qe5+ f6+ Qc7+ Kh6 Qb8 Kg7 Qa7+ Kg8 Qa8 Kg7  (c)
>>} 50... e3 51. Qc7 { 00:00:43 11.00  0.00  Qc7 Qf2+ Kh2 e2 Qe5+ f6 Qc7+
>>Kh6 Qb8 Kg7 Qb7+  (c) } 51... Qf2+ 52. Kh2 { 00:00:54 10.00  0.00  Kh2
>>e2 Qe5+ f6 Qc7+ Kh6 Qb8 Kg7 Qb7+ Kh6+ Qb8 Kg7 Qb7+ Kh6+  (c) } 52... e2
>>53. Qe5+ { 00:01:45 11.00  0.00  Qe5+ f6 Qc7+ Kh6+ Qb8 Kg7 Qb7+ Kh6 Qb8
>>Kg7 Qb7+ Kh6  (c) } 53... f6 54. Qc7+ { 00:01:04 11.00  0.00  Qc7+ Kh6
>>Qb8 Kg7 Qc7+  (c) } 54... Kh6 55. Qb8 { 00:00:00 12.00  0.00  Qb8 Kg7 Qa7+
>>Kh6 Qb8  (c) } 55... g5 56. fxg5+ { 00:01:02  9.00  0.00  fxg5+ Kxg5 b7
>>e1=Q Qg8+ Kh5 Qf7+  (c) } 56... Kxg5 57. b7 { 00:00:00 11.01  0.00  b7
>>e1=Q Qg8+ Kh6 Qf8+ Kg5 Qg7+  (c) } 57... e1=Q 58. Qg8+ { 00:00:27 13.00
>> 0.00  Qg8+ Kh6 Qf8+ Kh7 Qf7+ Kh6 Qf8+ Kh7 Qf7+ Kh6  (c) } 58... Kh6 59.
>>Qh8+ { 00:00:00 12.03  0.00  Qh8+ Kg6 Qg8+ Kh6  (c) } 59... Kg5 60. Qg7#
>>{ 00:00:28 12.00  0.00  Qg7+ Kh5 Qh7+ Kg5 Qg7+  (c) } *
>>
>>I suggested a draw when I played 60.Qg7+ and Deep Junior accepted the draw.
>>The position is a clear perpetual check(60...Kf5??? 61.Qg4#)
>>
>>Uri



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