Author: Rodney Hudlow
Date: 19:08:11 01/16/00
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On January 16, 2000 at 15:48:31, Charles Unruh wrote: >On January 16, 2000 at 02:45:39, John Warfield wrote: > >>On January 16, 2000 at 01:10:59, Charles Unruh wrote: >> >>> I in an earlier post said that Kasparov stating that he wouldn't play in the >>>Siemens Nixdorf Giants tournament was "B.S" , after thought though, i have come >>>to the conclusion that he is probably right! This because We here all(except a >>>few holdouts) know from experience that a program such as Rebel is as strong as >>>a GM(weak 2500) at 40/2 running on a mere 600 Mhz machine. In this case though >>>Fritz6(stronger than Rebel IMHO(and when you beat Rebel 15 to 5 as in Enriques >>>tournament, i don't want to hear crap about being better against humans, it's >>>not) will be running on a SUPER fast siemens primenergy server which in essence >>>will make it play like a rebel(probably stronger) at 40/2 even though the time >>>control will be only game in 25. So programs on fast hardware can still play at >>>40/2 strength even though the TC is but game in 25(humans can't hardly do this). >>> >>> Secondly Even if Kasparov managed to beat or draw his fritz match, Fritz could >>>go on to have better results against the competition than he does, which could >>>result in tons of advertising which says "Fritz finished ahead of world champion >>> Gary Kasparov in a tournament!" This besides pissing him off, would possibly >>>hurt his endorsements, and chances of garnering sponsorship for his match with >>>Anand. Solution might be though, to just go ahead and increase the tournament >>>time control to say game in 2hrs Kasp would have no fear then, as he knows that >>>both he and the competition would fair well against fritz. I'd prefer that TC >>>anyway :). >>> >>> Problem is though, i don't know how the German chess federation is going to >>>deal with this, because the Sponsor Siemens wants to get advertisement out of >>>fritz running on their Hardware! I actually wish there was some way to sue him >>>and force him to play(I hope they got him locked into some kind of contract). >>>Because regardless i still want him to play :). >> >> >> >> Well wasn't it kasparov who said in a recent interview about frankfurt that >>annand beat fritz6 and he thinks that a computer would never win in "our event" >>It appears just as in the deepblue matter his mouth is bigger than his heart. > > > I don't know i missed that statement by kasparov. However as for this match >with deep-blue there are some problems. Firstly since it's not the same deep >blue as previous but rather some deep blue chip, If Kasparov won there would be >countless people who would start claiming "Well it wasn't the same computer and >this wasn't really deep blue but just a chess chip and was weaker, etc. etc." >Secondly he needs time to set up a match for Anand, and any hiccup like a loss >to a deep blue chip could blow a million dollar deal! I'm all for playing on >principle, but if i was Kasps lawyer i wouldn't advise him to risk blowing a >million dollar match with Anand. Further in the words of Kasparov "I gaurantee" >that if Hsu says he has a million bucks to play Kasparov in a match, Kasp will >play! In the words of Jerry Mcguire "Show me the money!". > The real reason Kasp wont play in the Nixdorf with Fritz 6 is because he can't >trust Anand and Kramnik to keep Fritz from winning the tournament. If Fritz 6 >was to win then The Million Dollar world title match with Anand would be off. >Can you imagine how hard it already is to go out and say "Hey i want you to pay >me a million bucks to play this guy that I, and everyone else in the world knows >i will beat. Thank you" . Having a 50 dollar program beat you in a tournament >doesn't make the previous statement sound any better at all. > >Bottom Line--" It's all about the money baby!" The million dollar match with Anand (or anyone else for that matter) has already been lost. The lost to Deep Blue took care of that. If this kind of money was going to be there, the match would either be scheduled or would have taken place last fall. RJH
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