Author: Bertil Eklund
Date: 23:21:26 01/16/00
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On January 16, 2000 at 21:47:32, James T. Walker wrote: >On January 16, 2000 at 05:39:33, Bertil Eklund wrote: > >>On January 15, 2000 at 21:45:53, stuart taylor wrote: >> >>>On January 14, 2000 at 04:42:19, Bertil Eklund wrote: >>> >>>>On January 13, 2000 at 21:59:51, stuart taylor wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 13, 2000 at 19:22:20, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On January 13, 2000 at 18:43:41, Didzis Cirulis wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On January 13, 2000 at 18:08:49, walter irvin wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On January 13, 2000 at 17:57:11, James T. Walker wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Hello Christophe, >>>>>>>>>Congratulations on the release of Rebel-Tiger today! I wish you luck and hope >>>>>>>>>you sell a million copies. >>>>>>>>>Jim Walker >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>i know i must have it ,i want to see if it is as strong as advertised ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Believe me, Walter, it is! :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Congrats, Christophe! >>>>>> >>>>>Were there actual improvements still being made during this period of >>>>>delay?(e.g.trapped bishop awareness,or similar things.Or improvements of >>>>>any of its less strong points?)[I wasn't claiming that it lacked sufficient >>>>>trapped bishop awareness-necesarily]. >>>>> Indeed, what are its strongest points? >>>>> Is it top of the field for sure, in any particular area? e.g.Tactics, >>>>>knowledge, looking ahead, accuracy, human-like, instructiveness to humans, >>>>>precision, romantic etc? >>>>>Stuart Taylor >>>> >>>>Hi! >>>> >>>>IMO it´s the best of all programs in tactics and endgames. The style is very >>>>unromantic, more like Petrosian, it provokes weaknesses and plays against them. >>>>The book favours quiet openings i.e. the exchange-variation in French, closed >>>>Sicilian and so on. The scores are very accurate. >>>> >>>>Unfortunately it is some bug(?)in the book-learner with the consequence that it >>>>loses against 1.d4 over and over. Or is it only a narrow line in the slav >>>>defence. Anyway it is very boring to see it loosing in the same variation game >>>>after game after game. I hope this gonna be fixed, otherwise I guess Tiger´s >>>>first place in the SSDF-list could be a one timer. >>>> >>>>Bertil SSDF >>>> >>>> But if it is strongest of all in tactics and endgames, how does >>>hiarcs get 4 good wins over it, and not necesarily by playing 1.d4. >>>century also gets good wins. Do you mean that if fritzes strength is >>>mainly its tactics, so tiger will beat it hands down, because it dosn't >>>have to stand up against the knowledge of say-hiarcs?(against which it had a >>>very tough time). >>>>>> >>>>>>S.Taylor >>Hi! >> >>Tiger won clearly against Hiarcs in my 40 game match on 2h/40. I don´t remember >>the result but 24-16 or something similar I guess. I don´t think Hiarcs plays >>better than Fritz. For the moment I think Junior6 and Fritz plays the "best >>chess". Tiger are better than them in tactics and endgames. So far Fritz5.32 are >>the only program beating Tiger 21-19 Fritz should probably be outstanding if it >>wasn´t for the miscalculation when it misjudges some exchanges. As Uri writes it >>often values an exchange to say +1,5 and in the next move immediately sees the >>consequences and shows 0.00. In the match against Tiger Fritz was up 1,5-2 about >>(Tiger agreed) four times and wrongly exchanged down to a equal endgame. Tiger >>saws it almost immediately. One of the above games Fritz lost after a TB-error. >> >>Bertil > >Fritz 5.32 still cannot read the endgame CD properly and should not be punished >for the Chessbase inability to fix it. It should by used without the CD and it >will do just as good and probably better. Fritz 6 seems to work OK with the >tablebases but until I get a final working version I will hold my judgement. >Sometimes it takes a long time for the problem to show up unless you spend many >hours just testing tablebases. >Jim Walker Hi! There are problems with J6 but it should be fixed with the upgrade-patch that´s coming this week (probably). As you remember at least earlier versions of Fritz asked for them (endgame-CD) Bertil
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