Author: James T. Walker
Date: 03:14:58 01/17/00
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On January 16, 2000 at 22:54:24, Chessfun wrote: >On January 16, 2000 at 21:47:32, James T. Walker wrote: > >>On January 16, 2000 at 05:39:33, Bertil Eklund wrote: >> >>>On January 15, 2000 at 21:45:53, stuart taylor wrote: >>> >>>>On January 14, 2000 at 04:42:19, Bertil Eklund wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 13, 2000 at 21:59:51, stuart taylor wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On January 13, 2000 at 19:22:20, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On January 13, 2000 at 18:43:41, Didzis Cirulis wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On January 13, 2000 at 18:08:49, walter irvin wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On January 13, 2000 at 17:57:11, James T. Walker wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Hello Christophe, >>>>>>>>>>Congratulations on the release of Rebel-Tiger today! I wish you luck and hope >>>>>>>>>>you sell a million copies. >>>>>>>>>>Jim Walker >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>i know i must have it ,i want to see if it is as strong as advertised ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Believe me, Walter, it is! :-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Congrats, Christophe! >>>>>>> >>>>>>Were there actual improvements still being made during this period of >>>>>>delay?(e.g.trapped bishop awareness,or similar things.Or improvements of >>>>>>any of its less strong points?)[I wasn't claiming that it lacked sufficient >>>>>>trapped bishop awareness-necesarily]. >>>>>> Indeed, what are its strongest points? >>>>>> Is it top of the field for sure, in any particular area? e.g.Tactics, >>>>>>knowledge, looking ahead, accuracy, human-like, instructiveness to humans, >>>>>>precision, romantic etc? >>>>>>Stuart Taylor >>>>> >>>>>Hi! >>>>> >>>>>IMO it´s the best of all programs in tactics and endgames. The style is very >>>>>unromantic, more like Petrosian, it provokes weaknesses and plays against them. >>>>>The book favours quiet openings i.e. the exchange-variation in French, closed >>>>>Sicilian and so on. The scores are very accurate. >>>>> >>>>>Unfortunately it is some bug(?)in the book-learner with the consequence that it >>>>>loses against 1.d4 over and over. Or is it only a narrow line in the slav >>>>>defence. Anyway it is very boring to see it loosing in the same variation game >>>>>after game after game. I hope this gonna be fixed, otherwise I guess Tiger´s >>>>>first place in the SSDF-list could be a one timer. >>>>> >>>>>Bertil SSDF >>>>> >>>>> But if it is strongest of all in tactics and endgames, how does >>>>hiarcs get 4 good wins over it, and not necesarily by playing 1.d4. >>>>century also gets good wins. Do you mean that if fritzes strength is >>>>mainly its tactics, so tiger will beat it hands down, because it dosn't >>>>have to stand up against the knowledge of say-hiarcs?(against which it had a >>>>very tough time). >>>>>>> >>>>>>>S.Taylor >>>Hi! >>> >>>Tiger won clearly against Hiarcs in my 40 game match on 2h/40. I don´t remember >>>the result but 24-16 or something similar I guess. I don´t think Hiarcs plays >>>better than Fritz. For the moment I think Junior6 and Fritz plays the "best >>>chess". Tiger are better than them in tactics and endgames. So far Fritz5.32 are >>>the only program beating Tiger 21-19 Fritz should probably be outstanding if it >>>wasn´t for the miscalculation when it misjudges some exchanges. As Uri writes it >>>often values an exchange to say +1,5 and in the next move immediately sees the >>>consequences and shows 0.00. In the match against Tiger Fritz was up 1,5-2 about >>>(Tiger agreed) four times and wrongly exchanged down to a equal endgame. Tiger >>>saws it almost immediately. One of the above games Fritz lost after a TB-error. >>> >>>Bertil >> >>Fritz 5.32 still cannot read the endgame CD properly and should not be punished >>for the Chessbase inability to fix it. It should by used without the CD and it >>will do just as good and probably better. Fritz 6 seems to work OK with the >>tablebases but until I get a final working version I will hold my judgement. >>Sometimes it takes a long time for the problem to show up unless you spend many >>hours just testing tablebases. >>Jim Walker > >On that subject, I had a problem with Fritz 6 in Hiarcs 7.32 >interface with the Hiarcs CD installed. The mate was a king >and rook v king against Nimzo 732 and it played out fifty move draw. >That is the first problem with TB I have had. Since tourney is >still running I have not yet looked for the problem or cause. >In Fritz 6 interface as of yet no problems but only played about >100 games and so far is only installed on one computer. >Thanks. Yes, the problem exist when using an old interface such as Hiarcs7.32/Fritz5.32 with Fritz 6 or Junior 6. I have not found a problem with the tablebases of Fritz 6/Junior6 in their own GUI so far. However, I don't use them much as they have other problems. So basically I have two new programs which I don't use. Some things never change. Jim Walker
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