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Subject: Re: New CadaquƩs Statistics...

Author: Frank Schubert

Date: 04:33:55 01/17/00

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On January 17, 2000 at 06:20:17, blass uri wrote:

>On January 17, 2000 at 04:29:06, Frank Schubert wrote:
>
>>On January 16, 2000 at 18:15:36, Amir Ban wrote:
>>
>>>On January 16, 2000 at 17:50:33, Frank Schubert wrote:
>>>
>>>>...after 160 games. I added the result of Shredder - Century 13.5 - 6.5
>>>>(+11,=5,-4).
>>>>Here is the new Elo rating list (the old values are given in parentheses).
>>>>Again Elo calculation was performed by iteration procedure (start Elo 2600).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Program                Elo  (old)    +   -   Games   Score    Av.Op.  Draws
>>>>
>>>>  1 Junior 6.0           : 2676 (2665)  101  74    40    60.00 %   2604   45.0 %
>>>>  2 Fritz 6a             : 2645 (2641)   96  86    40    63.75 %   2546   37.5 %
>>>>  3 Hiarcs 7.32          : 2624 (2615)  111  75    40    52.55 %   2606   40.0 %
>>>>  4 Shredder 4           : 2610 (2597)   90  66    60    51.67 %   2597   33.3 %
>>>>  5 Rebel-Tiger 12.0e    : 2603 (2598)  106  59    40    56.25 %   2558   57.5 %
>>>>  6 Nimzo 7.32           : 2599 (2592)   76 102    40    41.25 %   2660   42.5 %
>>>>  7 Century              : 2493 (2493)   73  73    60    32.50 %   2619   38.3 %
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It is interesting to see that Century's rating did not change. Its Av.Op. is
>>>>also still the same. Therefore the result against Shredder fits very well with
>>>>Century's results before. Shredder increased its rating by 13 points up to 2610.
>>>>Due to the interdependencies of the iteration procedure the ratings of Shredders
>>>>opponents are also higher than before. And the ratings of the opponents of
>>>>Shredders opponents also increased. Hope I am not confusing you too much but
>>>>that's the way it works. You can simply check that the weighted average of all
>>>>ratings (weighted by the number of games) is still the same than it was before,
>>>>namely 2600.
>>>
>>>It's easy to see that this is not true. 6 ratings increased, and one stayed the
>>>same, so the average increased.
>>>
>>>Amir
>>>
>>
>>You have to take the weighted average as I tried to explain above. Consider that
>>Shredder and Century played 60 games now, the other programs still 40.
>
>The weighted average have to increase if all the numbers increase.
>for example if x is the same and y,z increased then
>0.5x+0.3y+0.2z increased
>
>The weights are not 0.5 0.3 and 0.2 but it does not change the simple
>mathematical fact.
>

No, you're wrong. The important point is that the WEIGHTS changed.
Let's calculate: (2676 x 40 + 2645 x 40 + 2624 x 40 + 2610 x 60 + 2603 x 40
+ 2599 x 40 + 2493 x 60)/160 = 5200.xxx
Additionally you have to divide it by 2 in order to avoid counting each game
twice. The result is 2600.

Q.E.D.

Frank






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