Author: Charles Unruh
Date: 07:07:16 01/18/00
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On January 16, 2000 at 22:08:11, Rodney Hudlow wrote: >On January 16, 2000 at 15:48:31, Charles Unruh wrote: > >>On January 16, 2000 at 02:45:39, John Warfield wrote: >> >>>On January 16, 2000 at 01:10:59, Charles Unruh wrote: >>> >>>> I in an earlier post said that Kasparov stating that he wouldn't play in the >>>>Siemens Nixdorf Giants tournament was "B.S" , after thought though, i have come >>>>to the conclusion that he is probably right! This because We here all(except a >>>>few holdouts) know from experience that a program such as Rebel is as strong as >>>>a GM(weak 2500) at 40/2 running on a mere 600 Mhz machine. In this case though >>>>Fritz6(stronger than Rebel IMHO(and when you beat Rebel 15 to 5 as in Enriques >>>>tournament, i don't want to hear crap about being better against humans, it's >>>>not) will be running on a SUPER fast siemens primenergy server which in essence >>>>will make it play like a rebel(probably stronger) at 40/2 even though the time >>>>control will be only game in 25. So programs on fast hardware can still play at >>>>40/2 strength even though the TC is but game in 25(humans can't hardly do this). >>>> >>>> Secondly Even if Kasparov managed to beat or draw his fritz match, Fritz could >>>>go on to have better results against the competition than he does, which could >>>>result in tons of advertising which says "Fritz finished ahead of world champion >>>> Gary Kasparov in a tournament!" This besides pissing him off, would possibly >>>>hurt his endorsements, and chances of garnering sponsorship for his match with >>>>Anand. Solution might be though, to just go ahead and increase the tournament >>>>time control to say game in 2hrs Kasp would have no fear then, as he knows that >>>>both he and the competition would fair well against fritz. I'd prefer that TC >>>>anyway :). >>>> >>>> Problem is though, i don't know how the German chess federation is going to >>>>deal with this, because the Sponsor Siemens wants to get advertisement out of >>>>fritz running on their Hardware! I actually wish there was some way to sue him >>>>and force him to play(I hope they got him locked into some kind of contract). >>>>Because regardless i still want him to play :). >>> >>> >>> >>> Well wasn't it kasparov who said in a recent interview about frankfurt that >>>annand beat fritz6 and he thinks that a computer would never win in "our event" >>>It appears just as in the deepblue matter his mouth is bigger than his heart. >> >> >> I don't know i missed that statement by kasparov. However as for this match >>with deep-blue there are some problems. Firstly since it's not the same deep >>blue as previous but rather some deep blue chip, If Kasparov won there would be >>countless people who would start claiming "Well it wasn't the same computer and >>this wasn't really deep blue but just a chess chip and was weaker, etc. etc." >>Secondly he needs time to set up a match for Anand, and any hiccup like a loss >>to a deep blue chip could blow a million dollar deal! I'm all for playing on >>principle, but if i was Kasps lawyer i wouldn't advise him to risk blowing a >>million dollar match with Anand. Further in the words of Kasparov "I gaurantee" >>that if Hsu says he has a million bucks to play Kasparov in a match, Kasp will >>play! In the words of Jerry Mcguire "Show me the money!". >> The real reason Kasp wont play in the Nixdorf with Fritz 6 is because he can't >>trust Anand and Kramnik to keep Fritz from winning the tournament. If Fritz 6 >>was to win then The Million Dollar world title match with Anand would be off. >>Can you imagine how hard it already is to go out and say "Hey i want you to pay >>me a million bucks to play this guy that I, and everyone else in the world knows >>i will beat. Thank you" . Having a 50 dollar program beat you in a tournament >>doesn't make the previous statement sound any better at all. >> >>Bottom Line--" It's all about the money baby!" > >The million dollar match with Anand (or anyone else for that matter) has already >been lost. The lost to Deep Blue took care of that. If this kind of money was >going to be there, the match would either be scheduled or would have taken place >last fall. You will see a match with payola be assured > >RJH
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