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Subject: Re: Green List formula

Author: george petty

Date: 09:30:43 01/18/00

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On January 18, 2000 at 11:45:37, Will Singleton wrote:

>On January 18, 2000 at 08:49:48, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>"R(mhz)    rating/log(mhz)/100.  Shows the performance of an account,
>>          taking into consideration the cpu speed."
>>
>>First of all Will is taking into account for his formula a logaritme,
>>combines that with rating and computer Mhz.
>>
>>This assumes a logarithmic connection between Mhz of a machine and its
>>rating.
>>
>>Obviously this is wrong.
>>
>>Let's take crafty:
>>
>>Wild        2148  [6]   195    50     8   253   2148 (06-Aug-1999)
>>Bullet      3033       6241  1412  1018  8671   3191 (27-Oct-1999)
>>Blitz       2858      48312 12919  8716 69947   3268 (27-Oct-1999)
>>Standard    2550       3761  1496  1117  6374   2785 (08-Aug-1999)
>>
>>Machine = 4x400 = 1600Mhz
>>rating  = 2550
>>
>>So this would make
>>   R(mhz) = 25.50 / log(1600) = 7.95
>>
>>Now that sounds a bit low to me personal already.
>>
>>Let's now assume that Bob wants to top the green list:
>>
>>  He needs 11.0 then as R(Mhz) to top it more or less.
>>
>>So 11.0 = rating / 100*log(1600)
>>   rating = 11 * 100 * log(1600) = 3525
>>
>>So crafty needs an incredible rating of 3525 to top the greenlist.
>>Good luck Bob!
>>
>>Why invent a formula if it's in advance already dead wrong?
>>
>>Rating is not based upon the 10th log of something.
>>It SURE does not represent performance taking into account
>>the machine speed.
>>
>>
>>Vincent
>
>
>Couple things.  First, crafty's efficiency isn't 100%, I don't believe.  I use a
>figure like 75-80% when calculating the effect of multiple cpus, which is just
>an approximation.  But you're right, the formula seems to work better in a
>narrow range.  Have a better formula for me?
>
>But come on, Vincent, the whole list is just an approximation.  Many folks feel
>that ICC ratings have little real-world significance, due to the factors present
>in server play.  Again, the list is just for entertainment purposes, it doesn't
>purport to be anything official.
>
>Having said that, on ICC one does see a general correlation between ratings and
>perceived strength.
>
>Will

  Sorry Will, I am afraid to leave the above comments out as one person has
 already misunderstood, my point that I was making to Vincent and Bob Hyatt.
 One, I was in agreement with Vincent on his opinion of the formula.
 Two, with that formula, Bob's program would not be able to come close to moving
     up much.
 Three, there is nothing wrong with the formula, if it is just a ballpark
      approximation.




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