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Subject: Re: ICC Computer Tourney

Author: Will Singleton

Date: 09:47:44 01/18/00

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On January 18, 2000 at 09:27:32, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 17, 2000 at 13:34:10, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>
>>I was thinking about the initial seeding for the ICC tourney (starting Jan 29,
>>ICC, don't miss it), and it seems to me that the hardware should be taken into
>>account.  For example, some folks will be running multiple cpus, at least one
>>will be on a 1ghz machine, and some will be as slow as 300mhz. :)
>>
>>So, I'd like to see a list of the hardware for this tourney.  And, for those who
>>are familiar with such things, what is the relative importance of the initial
>>seeding in a tourney such as this?
>>
>>+------------------------------------------------+
>>|Program        Main Author         ICC Handle   |
>>+--------------+------------------+--------------+
>>|Amateur        Will Singleton     Amateur       |
>>|                                                |
>>|Averno         Jos? C M Gal?n                   |
>>|                                                |
>>|Bringer        Gerrit Reubold     Bringer       |
>>|                                                |
>>|Crafty         Robert Hyatt       Crafty        |
>>|                                                |
>>|Diep           Vincent Diepeveen  DiepX         |
>>|                                                |
>>|EXchess        Dan Homan          EXchess       |
>>|                                                |
>>|Ferret         Bruce Moreland     Ferret        |
>>|                                                |
>>|Galahad        James Swafford     GalahadX      |
>>|                                                |
>>|GnuChess       Stuart Cracraft    GnuChess      |
>>|                                                |
>>|Grok           Peter Kappler                    |
>>|                                                |
>>|Hossa          Steffen A. Jakob   Hossa         |
>>|                                                |
>>|Insomniac      James Robertson                  |
>>|                                                |
>>|LambChop       Peter McKenzie     LambChop      |
>>|                                                |
>>|Little Goliath Michael Borgstaedt               |
>>|                                                |
>>|Nimzo          Chrilly Donninger  Varguz        |
>>|                                                |
>>|PostModernist  Andrew Williams    PostModernist |
>>|                                                |
>>|Shredder       Stefan Meyer-Kahlen              |
>>|                                                |
>>|Tinker         Brian Richardson   Tinker        |
>>|                                                |
>>|UruChess       Nicol?s Carrasco   UruChess      |
>>|                                                |
>>|ZarkovX        John Stanback      ZarkovX       |
>>+------------------------------------------------+
>
>
>Seeding doesn't matter if the number of rounds is >= log2(number of players).
>In big events, this isn't possible, so you end up with a log-jam at the top,
>with a bunch of 5 point finishers.  Seeding ensures that the highest rated
>player generally has the highest tie-break (sum of opponent's scores or
>whatever is used). When number of rounds is >= log2(players) the probability of
>this happening goes down.  In our case, 8 rounds is way larger.  It won't matter
>at all...
>
>It would be fun to let everyone seed the thing just before it starts, just to
>see who comes closest, at least in the top half..

Yes, perhaps we can get someone to put up a prize for the closest guess.

Glad to hear the seeding is unimportant in this case.  I assume you mean that,
while it remains important to try to order the programs, the *exact* order is
not critical.  Or would a random seed be equivalent?

Will



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