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Subject: Re: Green List formula sucks

Author: Jeremiah Penery

Date: 14:41:15 01/18/00

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On January 18, 2000 at 17:37:32, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On January 18, 2000 at 16:58:39, Daniel Clausen wrote:
>>Welp that's a bit harsh, don't you think? He doesn't produce crap at all.
>>He clearly states the formula in every GreenList he (automatically) produces.
>>If the "big masses" take just the number and interpret it the way they want,
>>it's their fault, not Wills.  (same goes for statistics btw)
>>
>>His formula is also not wrong, because he *defines* the formula this way. And
>>definitions are neither right nor wrong. They may be useful or not in a certain
>>context, but they're not "crap" as you put it.
>>
>>Will also didn't claim it's the best formula there is, he even invited you to
>>come up with a better definition of R. (which you failed to do so far btw)
>>
>>You (Vincent) have good points to make, but I wish you'd learn how to say
>>your point a bit less harsh. Subjects like "<whatever> sucks" is not a nice/
>>scientific way to do this.
>
>Perhaps. Perhaps some dudes here need to wake up too.
>Big masses already tell me at university (so you obviously know
>who those big masses are: teachers and students) currently:
>  "chess is solved by deep blue".
>
>Now you can cry that this is not true. For a BILLION people it is true,
>only about a million out of those billion that ever heart from the
>name 'chess', those might know a bit more.
>
>Anyhow. Companies agree with that billion. Many months i tried to get
>a hardware sponsor (so just BORROW a machine, not get it forever),
>couldn't get a single one. Only offers i got were from the computerchess
>world themselves. Only 2 parallel machines i could get:
>  - dual ultrasparc 300Mhz from university Utrecht
>  - quad xeon from Robert Hyatt
>
>Of course i was very happy with the generous offer of Bob. He even needed
>to physically transfer the big machine as the internal network is different
>from the external network, and also needed to go several times extra to the
>university to reboot it as i managed to get it hung several times.
>
>Still am happy about his offer. Have his offer for german open again.
>
>Yet, before 1998, this all was a lot simpler.

What does any of this have to do with the R(Mhz) formula?



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