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Subject: Re: Compressing disk and chess programs perfomance

Author: Jeremiah Penery

Date: 10:12:53 01/20/00

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On January 20, 2000 at 12:54:53, Dave Gomboc wrote:

>On January 20, 2000 at 12:12:44, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>
>>On January 20, 2000 at 04:39:38, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>
>>>On January 20, 2000 at 03:30:03, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>>>
>>>>I can say that for native NTFS (WinNT) disk compression, there was no noticable
>>>>impact on performance for any program.  I had things like TBs (Edwards)
>>>>compressed, and performance wasn't slowed at all.  Before Nalimov compression, I
>>>>had those compressed that way also, with no noticable performance hit.
>>>>I think NTFS compression is a bit conservative, though, and if you use something
>>>>else, performance might be a bit less. YMMV. :)
>>>>
>>>>Jeremiah
>>>
>>>Probably NTFS was smart enough to detect that it couldn't recompress the data,
>>>and consequently left the actual data alone.  Some compression implementations
>>>are not so clever.
>>
>>For which data?  NTFS compressed the uncompressed Nalimov TBs from a total of
>>~22GB to about 10GB.  The Edwards TBs were compressed from 2.5GB to about 1GB,
>>IIRC.
>
>Earlier in the thread I mentiioned "the latest" tablebases.  By this, I meant
>the compressed Nalimov ones.  I would be surprised if NTFS could do a better job
>compressing the databases than the code written specifically to do so.  Maybe
>you can compare the sizes and see.

Ah. :)  I didn't realize what exactly you were talking about.

The specific compression is better.  It is about 10GB for NTFS compression vs.
6GB for the Nalimov-specific compression for the full set of 3/4/5 piece TBs.
Using NTFS compression to further compress the compressed Nalimov TBs doesn't
gain a thing.  IIRC, the sizes are identical, because NTFS can't compress them
any further.



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