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Subject: Re: next deep blue

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:49:22 01/22/00

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On January 22, 2000 at 12:43:54, blass uri wrote:

>On January 22, 2000 at 10:51:12, blass uri wrote:
>
>>On January 22, 2000 at 10:30:25, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>>No, but if you take the 40 games Hsu/Campbell played against micros in their
>>>lab, with a very slow single-processor version of DB, you might conclude that
>>>speed wasn't all they had.  IE 38-2 was the reported result that several
>>>reported here after attending talks by the two.  That is evidence that they
>>>are doing something quite good...
>>
>>I understood that they have a hardware advantage even in these games and it is
>>also possible that they did something good in the search and not in the
>>evaluation.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Another point is that the games of the 38:2 are not public so many people do not
>believe in them.
>
>IBM and hsu did almost everything in order not to be respected.
>
>It may be obvious to hsu that deep blue Junior is better than the commercial
>programs but it is not obvious to the public when the games to prove it are not
>public.
>
>If he wants people to respect him and believe that he had really better
>evaluation and better search than the commercial programs then he has to prove
>it by public games.
>
>Uri


Just don't lose sight of the fact that against microcomputers, they lost
only 2 games over a 10 year period, playing in an ACM or WCCC event each
year (and sometimes both).

with deep thought hardware.  DB-1's chips were much better.  DB-2's chips
were again much better than DB-1's....



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