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Subject: Re: ICC Chess Tournament. Programs and seedings

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 20:16:20 01/22/00

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On January 22, 2000 at 22:44:19, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On January 22, 2000 at 16:54:00, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>
>>On January 22, 2000 at 14:58:02, Steve McRiley wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Here is the list of the programs that has entered the ICC Computer
>>>Chess Tournament, the main author, ICC handle and CPU expected to be
>>>used for this event.
>>>
>>>If any of this information is wrong or you are able to fill the gaps
>>>in, please send me an e-mail.
>>>
>>>More information about this event can be found at ICC
>>>(www.chessclub.com) int the fingernotes of CCT1 and in the helpfile
>>>'cct'. To read this file, go online and type 'help cct'.
>>>
>>>+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
>>>|Program        Main Author        ICC Handle      CPU            |
>>>+--------------+------------------+--------------+----------------+
>>>|Amateur        Will Singleton     Amateur        G3/500          |
>>>|                                                                 |
>>>|Averno         José C M Galán                                    |
>>>|                                                                 |
>>>|Bringer        Gerrit Reubold     Bringer        P3/500          |
>>>|                                                                 |
>>>|Crafty         Robert Hyatt       Crafty         Xeon/400 x4     |
>>>|                                                                 |
>>>|Diep           Vincent Diepeveen  DiepX          P/200 x4        |
>>>|                                                                 |
>>>|EXchess        Dan Homan          EXchess        P3/500          |
>>>|                                                                 |
>>>|Ferret         Bruce Moreland     Ferret         Xeon/450 x4     |
>>>|                                                                 |
>>>|Galahad        James Swafford     GalahadX                       |
>>>|                                                                 |
>>>|GnuChess       Stuart Cracraft    GnuChess       P3/500          |
>>>|                                                                 |
>>>|Grok           Peter Kappler                     Athlon/650      |
>>>|                                                                 |
>>>|Hossa          Steffen A. Jakob   Hossa          P3/500          |
>>>|                                                                 |
>>>|Insomniac      James Robertson                                   |
>>>|                                                                 |
>>>|LambChop       Peter McKenzie     LambChop       Kryotech/1GHz   |
>>>|                                                                 |
>>>|Little Goliath Michael Borgstaedt                                |
>>>|                                                                 |
>>>|Nimzo          Chrilly Donninger  Varguz        Xeon 550 @616    |
>>>|                                                                 |
>>>|PostModernist  Andrew Williams    PostModernist  P3/450          |
>>>|                                                                 |
>>>|Shrike         Dan Newman                                        |
>>>|                                                                 |
>>>|Shredder(3) 	Stefan Meyer-Kahlen Netsurfer     Athlon 700mhz   |
>>>|                                                                 |
>>>|Tinker         Brian Richardson   Tinker         P3/600          |
>>>|                                                                 |
>>>|ZarkovX        John Stanback      ZarkovX        K2/333 or K3/475|
>>>+------------------------------------------------+----------------+
>>>
>>>SEEDINGS
>>>--------
>>>
>>>1.  Shredder
>>
>>I heard this was going to be Shredder version 2 (not the version 4 that won the
>>1999 World Comp Champs), in which case I don't think it should be seeded #1.  If
>>it is version 4, then I think it should be seeded #1.
>>
>>>2.  Ferret
>>>3.  Nimzo
>>>4.  Crafty
>>>5.  Diep
>>
>>I know Diep is a strong program, but I don't understand how it is seeded in
>>front of LambChop.  LambChop finished a point in front of Diep at the 1999 World
>>Computer Chess Champs and in the ICC Tournament LambChop will be on faster
>>hardware too.
>
>Thanks, let's try some games diep without 1 ply search bug (as i had
>in world champs) against lambchop.

Everybody has bugs.  You frequently mention various bugs that you have found.
Probably you have more, and when you discover them, you'll mention those too.

I haven't seen anyone other than you disagree with moving your program down two
notches.  The general consensus is simply that Diep is almost, but not quite, as
good as you think it is.

Instead of being offended by this, consider it as a way to get easier pairings.

Dave



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