Author: Albert Silver
Date: 20:20:36 01/22/00
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On January 22, 2000 at 00:28:54, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>On January 21, 2000 at 15:58:23, Amir Ban wrote:
>
>>On January 20, 2000 at 22:45:41, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On January 20, 2000 at 14:01:57, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Amir,
>>>>
>>>>Here is some more information for you. The journalist in question is
>>>>Jeff Kisseloff. At the time I spoke with him in email he was very
>>>>cooperative. If you want his email address I will tell you. He is
>>>>also mentioned on the official IBM pages. Here is the article.
>>>>
>>>>Ed
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Now there was a balanced and unbiased bit of reporting. :)
>>>
>>>He starts off with false facts. I'll give one and let it go as garbage.
>>>IBM didn't claim to only have "one GM" working on DB. The _entire world_
>>>knew that Robert Byrne, Joel Benjamin, and Maxim Dlugy worked on the
>>>project. This was _never_ a secret. Except maybe from the closed eyes of the
>>>guy that wrote this stuff...
>>>
>>>no further comments necessary...
>>
>>Speaking for myself, and I had more interest in this than the _entire world_, I
>>knew about Benjamin's involvement. A while before the 2nd match, I heard about
>>another Spanish GM, the name Cifuentes rings a bell. Did Byrne really work with
>>Deep Blue ? Didn't know this, and it sounds illogical, as he was about eighty
>>years old at the time. Never heard of Dlugy's involvement with DB. I'm not
>>saying it mayn't be true, but as a representative of the public, I'm hearing of
>>this only now.
>>
>>Amir
>
>
>Finger Dlugy on ICC. He even put it in his finger notes:
>
> 2: First Grandmaster to officially work on the team to improve Deep Blue (
>1990-1991), and the only grandmaster to ever serve as U.S. Chess Federation
>President ( 1990-1993)
>
>As far as Byrne goes, he was helping me in the early to middle 80's, analyzing
>games by Cray Blitz and sending me detailed annotations (all via email). I am
>unfortunately at home, and my copy of Hsu's book is at the office. I think he
>mentioned the GMs that helped, and I am sure that I have overlooked at least
>one. If I am not mistaken, I believe that they even contacted Roman at one
>point, although he didn't have time to get involved IIRC.
>
>This was certainly discussed at all the ACM events during the 90's...
>
>the point being I doubt IBM claimed that they had only one GM (Joel) helping,
>then later changed that to four when they were caught. They were quite honest
>at several points about getting GM involvement... I can't see them suddenly
>changing and denying what was known by too many people...
>
>And I might be wrong about Roman after thinking about it.... it is possible
>that conversation was with Bill Lombardy instead... but it was several years
>ago when Lombardy was playing actively on ICC and chatted daily... so don't
>hold me to either of those... Dlugy/Byrne are certainties... I will look this
>up in his book Monday and post when...
I remember reading Illescas helped.
A.S.
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