Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 21:51:37 01/22/00
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On January 22, 2000 at 23:20:36, Albert Silver wrote: >On January 22, 2000 at 00:28:54, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On January 21, 2000 at 15:58:23, Amir Ban wrote: >> >>>On January 20, 2000 at 22:45:41, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On January 20, 2000 at 14:01:57, Ed Schröder wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>Amir, >>>>> >>>>>Here is some more information for you. The journalist in question is >>>>>Jeff Kisseloff. At the time I spoke with him in email he was very >>>>>cooperative. If you want his email address I will tell you. He is >>>>>also mentioned on the official IBM pages. Here is the article. >>>>> >>>>>Ed >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Now there was a balanced and unbiased bit of reporting. :) >>>> >>>>He starts off with false facts. I'll give one and let it go as garbage. >>>>IBM didn't claim to only have "one GM" working on DB. The _entire world_ >>>>knew that Robert Byrne, Joel Benjamin, and Maxim Dlugy worked on the >>>>project. This was _never_ a secret. Except maybe from the closed eyes of the >>>>guy that wrote this stuff... >>>> >>>>no further comments necessary... >>> >>>Speaking for myself, and I had more interest in this than the _entire world_, I >>>knew about Benjamin's involvement. A while before the 2nd match, I heard about >>>another Spanish GM, the name Cifuentes rings a bell. Did Byrne really work with >>>Deep Blue ? Didn't know this, and it sounds illogical, as he was about eighty >>>years old at the time. Never heard of Dlugy's involvement with DB. I'm not >>>saying it mayn't be true, but as a representative of the public, I'm hearing of >>>this only now. >>> >>>Amir >> >> >>Finger Dlugy on ICC. He even put it in his finger notes: >> >> 2: First Grandmaster to officially work on the team to improve Deep Blue ( >>1990-1991), and the only grandmaster to ever serve as U.S. Chess Federation >>President ( 1990-1993) >> >>As far as Byrne goes, he was helping me in the early to middle 80's, analyzing >>games by Cray Blitz and sending me detailed annotations (all via email). I am >>unfortunately at home, and my copy of Hsu's book is at the office. I think he >>mentioned the GMs that helped, and I am sure that I have overlooked at least >>one. If I am not mistaken, I believe that they even contacted Roman at one >>point, although he didn't have time to get involved IIRC. >> >>This was certainly discussed at all the ACM events during the 90's... >> >>the point being I doubt IBM claimed that they had only one GM (Joel) helping, >>then later changed that to four when they were caught. They were quite honest >>at several points about getting GM involvement... I can't see them suddenly >>changing and denying what was known by too many people... >> >>And I might be wrong about Roman after thinking about it.... it is possible >>that conversation was with Bill Lombardy instead... but it was several years >>ago when Lombardy was playing actively on ICC and chatted daily... so don't >>hold me to either of those... Dlugy/Byrne are certainties... I will look this >>up in his book Monday and post when... > >I remember reading Illescas helped. > > A.S. I believe I read that somewhere as well...
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