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Subject: Re: next deep blue

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 22:19:04 01/22/00

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On January 22, 2000 at 17:47:28, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>They were searching about 100K nodes per second, according to Hsu.  yes, they
>do a lot more in their eval than what they could do if they ran on a PC and
>searched 100K nodes per second (this match was in 1995-96 time frame, which
>would have been roughly pentium pro 200 level machines for the PC side).  But
>regardless... if they searched only 100K, and they dominated the commercial
>programs as they have been reporting (again, 38-2 was reported) that says that
>whatever they are doing is pretty good...  as programs like fritz are way over
>100K on a P6/200...

I think that those matches should be absolutely ignored because they weren't
played under controlled conditions, and they weren't played in public.

There are enough places that mistakes could have been made, and enough estimates
that could be off, that for these data to be accepted upon faith is completely
ridiculous.

The machine has existed for some time, and has had ample opportunity to display
its talents on the internet and in international tournaments.  However, we have
zero published games between a "full strength" DB Jr and any other program.

For all I know it is a wonderful machine.  However, if anyone wants me to accept
that it is a wonderful machine, it is going to have to come out and play some
games, the idea that it should play all of its computer vs computer games behind
locked doors and that we should simply accept the results is just bullshit.

Sorry.

bruce



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