Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:18:01 01/23/00
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On January 23, 2000 at 07:28:44, Chris Carson wrote: >On January 23, 2000 at 01:19:04, Bruce Moreland wrote: > >>On January 22, 2000 at 17:47:28, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>They were searching about 100K nodes per second, according to Hsu. yes, they >>>do a lot more in their eval than what they could do if they ran on a PC and >>>searched 100K nodes per second (this match was in 1995-96 time frame, which >>>would have been roughly pentium pro 200 level machines for the PC side). But >>>regardless... if they searched only 100K, and they dominated the commercial >>>programs as they have been reporting (again, 38-2 was reported) that says that >>>whatever they are doing is pretty good... as programs like fritz are way over >>>100K on a P6/200... >> >>I think that those matches should be absolutely ignored because they weren't >>played under controlled conditions, and they weren't played in public. >> >>There are enough places that mistakes could have been made, and enough estimates >>that could be off, that for these data to be accepted upon faith is completely >>ridiculous. >> >>The machine has existed for some time, and has had ample opportunity to display >>its talents on the internet and in international tournaments. However, we have >>zero published games between a "full strength" DB Jr and any other program. >> >>For all I know it is a wonderful machine. However, if anyone wants me to accept >>that it is a wonderful machine, it is going to have to come out and play some >>games, the idea that it should play all of its computer vs computer games behind >>locked doors and that we should simply accept the results is just bullshit. >> >>Sorry. >> >>bruce > >Well said Bruce. I will publish a summary of all DT/DB games against >other computers (micros included). Of course the mythical, in a >closet match will not be there. :) > >Best Regards, >Chris Carson Note that there are _no_ deep blue vs micro games in existance. Even the 40 games I mentioned were against a 1 processor version running in a crippled mode. DB has _never_ played in a computer vs computer event, only deep thought.
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