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Subject: Re: next deep blue

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:00:26 01/23/00

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On January 23, 2000 at 11:16:50, Chris Carson wrote:

>Dr Hyatt,
>
>I remember the CCC discussions.  Since you are quoting
>someone else, please post your source so that everyone
>can review.  If you have no source, then please state as
>"opinion only", everything that can not be verified is
>only speculation or hearsay, not fact.

It is hearsay to you.  It was written here and I mentioned that.  My memory
is good enough to recall the discussion.  Just not the actual person that wrote
it.

The poster was reporting on a talk given by Hsu or Campbell at a location that
was close enough for him to attend.  It could have been one of several different
people, since I think Bruce heard a talk at microsoft.  Others heard the talk
at other places...


>  It is your responsibility
>to post the source if you use a quote or make a reference.  It is
>not the responsibility of the reader to find your source or
>to take your word for it.  No researcher gets a free ticket and
>all research should be scrutinized.
>
>Science is how you study a subject, here is the scientific method:
>
>Questions
>Review the current literature (published, with sources listed)
>Hypothesis (statement of prediction)/research questions
>Methodology (testing hypothesis)
>Results (summary of what was found and what it means)
>Discussion (new questions about topic and limitations of study)
>
>source:  Melody Huffman, PHD, Amber University, Research Methods
>         Professor, "Walking through research", 1988.
>
>weblink Amber University: http://www.amberu.edu/
>
>Oh, I have published three articles in the Texas Instruments
>Technical Journal and I have completed graduate courses in
>research methods and statistics.  I also hold a graduate degree.
>
>Best Regards,
>Chris Carson


I have published about 50 technical articles in various journals and
conference proceedings.  What has that to do with anything here?  I have
given lots of precise details.  That seems to hold little weight for those
not wanting to accept DB/DT as the best there is by a wide margin.  I have
posted game by game, DTs results vs micros.  Citing the year and the opponent
for each game.  the result was 10-1 wins vs losses against micros, in ACM
and WCCC events.  Yet the 10-0 and 38-2 results seem to cause everyone problems,
even though a similar result is part of the public record.

IE facts don't seem to  account for much here, sometimes...  And if I spent
the time to dredge thru the archive to find the post, you would likely have
the same comment: It is hearsay... it was person X reporting on what Hsu or
Campbell said at a public talk.  I won't accept it until they say it here
directly... and we are back at square 1.

I choose to not waste that much effort for zero results...



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