Author: Alvaro Polo
Date: 14:36:45 01/23/00
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Uri, here is a post from Ed, dated 1997/02/04. As you can see, it is before the DB-K match. ---- begin quotation ------- Ok, another bottom line then... You are an expert for more the 20 years. You have been extremely succesful being 2 times the absolute worldchampion with Cray Blitz, you have Crafty, you give everybody here wise support, you can talk about any subject. You are an expert no doubt about it. I have 14-15 year experience, have been succesfull too, I know every little edge of my program which is not the worsed one at the moment. My point is that expert-1 thinks completely different than expert-2. Expert-1 : DB without any doubt the strongest program. Expert-2 : strongly disagrees about that. Important to know for the reader.... Wish we could solve it... :) - Ed - ------ end quotation ------- I didn't see anything from Amir, so I recognize that I was mistaken (it happened almost 3 years ago and people [I] forget, sorry) I want to make clear that this post from Ed is not intended against him in any way, just to prove that "facts" (ie the DB-K match) don't change the opinions of anybody, pro DB or anti DB, so to speak. Alvaro On January 23, 2000 at 16:59:20, blass uri wrote: >On January 23, 2000 at 15:36:28, Alvaro Polo wrote: > >>On January 23, 2000 at 12:53:54, Tom Kerrigan wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>So, is Bob a liar, or is he just really clueless? You make the call... >>> >>>-Tom >> >>This comment is bad taste and should not be said by an intelligent person, as >>you seem to be. >> >>Bob may be "religious" about DB but, on the other hand, I remember that before >>the 1987 match against Kasparov people were saying in Usenet how DB was a bluff, >>how it hadn't demonstrated being superior to the commercials, etc (exactly the >>same things that they are saying today, by the way, you can look in DejaNews to >>confirm that what I say it is true. Among the posters were Ed Schroeder and Amir >>Ban, I believe). After all that, DB won the Kasparov match. I say this because >>Bob is not the only one "religious" about his point of view, the other side is, >>in my view, much more "religious". >> >>Alvaro > >I do not believe that people like Ed and Amir said that deeper blue is not >better than the commercial programs. > >The question is if their evaluation function was superior. > >The impression of almost everybody is that their evaluation was not superior >relative to the commercial programs and that they could not win the commercial >programs 38:2 or 10:0 if you assume the same number of nodes. > >Uri
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