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Subject: Re: ICC Chesstournament - Updates

Author: Peter McKenzie

Date: 17:03:32 01/23/00

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On January 23, 2000 at 14:41:21, Steve McRiley wrote:

>Unfortunatly ZarkovX had to withdraw from the tournament. This is sad by itself
>but also made it an odd number of programs.

Yes, very sad - I was looking forward to seeing Zarkov play.  Maybe someone else
will enter?  I get the feeling some people don't want their programs to play
because they won't do to well - I hope this isn't the case.  If a program gets
last, it just means the author has been sensible and not wasted too much time on
it :-)  I think most chess programmers have alot of respect for anyone who
manages to get a program playing legal chess!

An idea: if there is an odd number then get TSCP playing!

>
>Here is also an updated list of programs/CPU and a new seeding based on the
>feedback I got.
>
>I will make and post the pairings for the first round tomorrow (monday).
>If another program withdraws from the tournament I will make a new pairing based
>on the programs left.
>
>If the tournament will run with an odd number, the program that does get bye in
>the round will get .5 points.
>
>I will also fix a channel on ICC for this tournament where discussions can take
>place during this event.
>
>The matches on ICC will be played by standard with unrated games but if both
>operators want they can ofcourse chose to play an ICC rated game instead.
>
>+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
>|Program        Main Author        ICC Handle      CPU            |
>+--------------+------------------+--------------+----------------+
>|Amateur        Will Singleton     Amateur        G3/500          |
>|                                                                 |
>|Averno         José C M Galán     LoadedGun      P2/350          |
>|                                                                 |
>|Bringer        Gerrit Reubold     Bringer        P3/500          |
>|                                                                 |
>|Crafty         Robert Hyatt       Crafty         Xeon/400 x4     |
>|                                                                 |
>|Diep           Vincent Diepeveen  DiepX          P/200 x4        |
>|                                                                 |
>|EXchess        Dan Homan          EXchess        P3/500          |
>|                                                                 |
>|Ferret         Bruce Moreland     Ferret         Xeon/450 x4     |
>|                                                                 |
>|Galahad        James Swafford     GalahadX       K6-2/400        |
>|                                                                 |
>|GnuChess       Stuart Cracraft    GnuChess       P3/500          |
>|                                                                 |
>|Grok           Peter Kappler      Grok           Athlon/650      |
>|                                                                 |
>|Hossa          Steffen A. Jakob   Hossa          P3/500          |
>|                                                                 |
>|Insomniac      James Robertson    RDavis101      P3/500          |
>|                                                                 |
>|LambChop       Peter McKenzie     LambChop       Kryotech/1GHz   |
>|                                                                 |
>|Little Goliath Michael Borgstaedt                                |
>|                                                                 |
>|Nimzo          Chrilly Donninger  Varguz        Xeon 550 @616    |
>|                                                                 |
>|PostModernist  Andrew Williams    PostModernist  P3/450          |
>|                                                                 |
>|Shrike         Dan Newman         SkyBlue        P3/500          |
>|                                                                 |
>|Shredder(3) 	Stefan Meyer-Kahlen Netsurfer     Athlon 700mhz   |
>|                                                                 |
>|Tinker         Brian Richardson   Tinker         P3/600          |
>+------------------------------------------------+----------------+
>
>1.  Nimzo
>2.  Ferret

I understand you may have had alot of feedback, but I don't think
the seeding should be done by a voting process.  It should be done
using some sort of logic.  The only logic that I can think of that would
place Nimzo above Ferret is that Nimzo is a commercial program.  Maybe alot of
people bought it and think its strong, maybe people are impressed by SSDF?  Of
course Ferret isn't on the SSDF, and in any case SSDF use equal hardware.
Ferret will use a machine that is effectively TWICE as fast as Nimzo's machine.

If you use the results of previous computer tournaments as a guide, then it
seems clear Ferret should be in front.

Just look at the following results I picked up from the ICCA page:

World Computer Champ's 1999: Ferret 2nd (5.5/7), Nimzo 8th (4.5/7)
World Micro Computer Champ's 1997: Ferret 5th, Nimzo didn't play
World Micro Computer Champ's 1996: Ferret 2nd (8.5/9), Nimzo 3rd (7.5/9)
World Micro Computer Champ's 1995: both programs tied, playoff awarded to Ferret
by default.

>3.  Shredder
>4.  Crafty
>5.  Diep
>6.  LambChop
>7.  Insomniac
>8.  Little Goliath
>9.  PostModernist
>10. Amateur
>11. Hossa
>12. EXchess
>13. Grok
>14. GnuChess
>15. Bringer
>16. Galahad
>17. Tinker
>18. Averno
>19. Shrike
>
>/McRiley



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