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Subject: Re: you have 3 incest problems :-))

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 07:12:18 01/24/00

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On January 23, 2000 at 20:00:19, Christophe Theron wrote:
>I don't agree. The SSDF does a great job and their testing methodology is OK.


>    Christophe

whatever you want, but i do stand to my point that the autoplayers have not
brought us advantages. it is IMO a clear disadvantage that computerchess
has been reduced to calling number as 12-16, 16-6 instead of concentrating
on the game of chess.

it is like talking about people, but not about them, only about how old they
are. IMO the reason some programs make no progress has to do with CHESS
and not with "how to make the autoplayer much trickier".
Stefan Meyer Kahlen has given a nice interview in chessbits where he
differenciates very clear between
1.How to make a program play stronger chess.
2.How to make a program play better in the ssdf-list.

i can only subscibe to his statements and to his differenciations.

for me, this is not ONE. you have to differenciate.
there are methods to get a stronger (better ssdf-ranking) chess program
without making the chess-engine any elo-points stronger.

in human chess we call this: cheating, or psychologie of chess,
e.g. when kasparov or other guys make big loud noise and drama
whenever something happens, so that the opponent cannot concentrate.
e.g. in box-fighting muhammed ali was well known for his dramatic-loud
noise, to disturb the opponents concentration.

you can discuss how much this has something to do with strength or
beeing an asshole :-))





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