Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 09:06:14 01/24/00
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On January 24, 2000 at 04:21:15, Harald Faber wrote: >Thx to the moderators for deleting my message. >So I do it again with another topic, maybe they didn't like "rubbish" as topic. is it my fault harald ? i did not complain about you. :-)) be more polite harald. take an example on me :-)) >>1. you let the new versions play against older versions of the same >>program , or let the same program play on fast machines against >>slower machines. thats nonsense. >Nonsense. Neither J6 nor Tiger 12 is an OLD version, right? where did i say that my first point refers to tiger-junior ? it refers to the methods of the ssdf to generate wrong data or unsignificant data. >>2. you don't delete the doubles ! here you even count 12x the same opening !!! >Own fault. If I play against you and you repeat the same lousy loosing opening >line again and again, you deserve the loss and can be called stupid. if i would do so, i would say you are not better or weaker than i am. two guys, replaying always the same game, this is no sign of intelligence for me, harald. maybe for you. because you believe its intelligent to repeat ONE game 12 times. >>3. you only let the new programs play against new other software >>(or - as stupid, see point 1). But you never test against a big >>variety of programs on same fast hardware. >You don't have a right to demand anything. i have the right to have an opinion. and it is my right that my opinion does not have to be the same opinion YOU have , harald. if so, we would not live in a democracy and there would be no free speech. > They do it VOLUNTARILY. so they cannot be criticised because they do it "voluntarily" ? aha. thats good. i do anything voluntarily, so how can you critisize me, harald. :-)) > Some of them >use their machines for other things so that they sometimes can only test >200<->450MHz. they should better not rely on these data. or on data produced using shredder2. shredder4 is out. shredder3 is old. shredder2 is dead-old. why not test rexchess or chessmaster2000 or colossusX instead ? would make more sense ! :-) > But when they do it, they play programs on 200MHz who have a well >defined ELO because of VERY many games. Nothing wrong with it. all wrong with it. the elo you get playing junior vs. shredder2 suggests that junior is much stronger than it is. >>therefore your results are ot serious. >:-))) >You accuse me for not accepting other results than mine or results that don't >fit into my wishes or so, i don't understand what this has to do with YOU now ! i do not accuse you of anything harald. in fact, your name was not in my original post. in no words. never. i posted about the 3 incest problems about ssdf-list. no accusations towards you. also - i do accept their results. they may be true. what is the point ? all i say is that this, that and that makes no sense to me. so i criticize them for doing it. but where do i say i don't accept their results ? > now you don't accept results that don't fit to yours. ?? as i said: i have no problems with them playing 12 times the same opening. if they want they can play 500 times the same game. i can live with this. >Doesn't it remind you on s.th.? no. many people can reproduce that cstal plays strong, if that is what you mean. they post games, here - or somewhere else - and it is e.g. didzis, mr. utzinger, Dave Beauregard, eric gallula, ... this was what i said: that ignoring other peoples data is not ok. i do not ignore the ssdf-data. i do not believe they betray in the names cases. in fact, i do criticize them, that shows the best that i do accept their data, since i discuss about the data. ignoring it is something completely different. if i would ignore e.g. you, i would not talk with you. but i can talk with you without insulting you harald. on the other hand i see that you are unable to do the same thing with me. it's a pity. i would never complain about this, because i met you in paderborn and i think you were a nice guy there, so why shall i complain or ask for moderation. i think to myself: oh - maybe harald had a bad day. and thats it. >You are a really hopeless guy. whatever you believe in. this forum is free to anybody. you included. but in the moment don't have enough control over your emotions, somebody complains and you get deleted. thats part of the charta here. as i said: i have not complained. >(How long will this post survive? Why am I gonna deny voting?) I don't know. i have no idea for what you vote. seems to depend on your emotions.
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