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Subject: Re: What is Civilized???

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 09:32:52 01/25/00

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On January 25, 2000 at 12:06:10, John R. Menke, Sr. wrote:

>If we don't believe in freedom of speech for people who we disagree with, we
>don't believe in it at all.
>--JRM

Even U.S. law prohibits certain types of freedom of speech. One cannot yell
"Fire" in a crowded theater without paying the penalty.

It is not a matter of banning people for disagreeing.

It is a matter of banning people for not abiding by their original agreement.
And reasonable people do not get banned. Abusive people get banned; and with the
current moderators, after warnings and bending over backwards to get them to
understand the consequences of their actions.

Certain liberal type individuals often claim that their rights are being abused
and their freedoms trodden on whenever they hear that some people are being
disciplined for inappropriate behavior. These individuals are entitled to those
beliefs, but it does not make those beliefs valid.

Personal responsibility should count for something, both on this forum and in
the world. If people want to behave irresponsibly (be it criminal or just plain
malicious), then there has to be a mechanism to protect others from that
irresponsibility.

You cannot have your cake and eat it too. Besides, banning here is not like the
death penalty. A person's rights are not PERMANENTLY taken away. A banned poster
can easily come back in here under another name and post responsibly again. In
fact, it happens all of the time. It's practically a revolving door.

KarinsDad :)



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