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Subject: Re: Rebel Tiger Book does not work - Need Help

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 09:43:18 01/25/00

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On January 24, 2000 at 20:37:41, James T. Walker wrote:

>On January 24, 2000 at 19:49:46, Laurence Chen wrote:
>
>>Hi all,
>>   I've just got my Rebel-Tiger today, and I've installed in my computer. One
>>thing I tried to do was to select the opening book, and it is grayed out. Also I
>>noticed that the endgames tablebases does not work, it's missing the
>>CONFIGURATION program as stated in the manual in order to activate the Ken
>>Thompson's Endgame CD's.  So where is this utility? I must say that I am very
>>disappointed with the Chess Patner interface specially when things don't work as
>>it says in the manual that it's supposed to work.  Can someone provide some
>>clues or answers? Thanks.
>>Laurence
>
>Hello Laurence,
>Welcome to the club!  If you close the program and restart it it may find it's
>book as that's what worked for me.  Don't worry, it will lose it again during
>the course of using the program.  I don't think the endgame tablebases work with
>Chess Tiger.


That's right, Chess Tiger does not use the endgame databases.



>  They may work for the other Chesspartner program provided but I
>didn't try it.


That's right, they work with the LChess engine which is also provided with the
product.



>  The GUI was a piece of junk 8 months ago when I tested it and
>not much has changed since then.  They have fixed a few minor bugs but it needs
>a lot of work.  They also mention that Lokasoft does not support the auto232
>function so if it works great but if it doesn't work don't come complaining to
>them.


Try it first, it works.

The problem is that we cannot guarantee it will work with any chess program,
because the Auto232 protocol is itself very lousy, and has been sometimes
implemented in a very lousy way in some chess programs.

However, it works rather well. We have been able to autoplay against almost any
chess program supporting Auto232.

You even have the opportunity to let the program play white and black
alternatively, which is an improvement over the original protocol (can be turned
on or off).

The games can be saved in a database. The percentage of wins/draws/losses is
always displayed. You can easily configure the numbre of games to play, the
maximum number of moves to play and the timeout before a new game is started.
And so on.



>  That's a great piece of customer relations.


That's a piece of honesty. Other companies do not tell you that, but they
wouldn't be able either to make any third party program use Auto232 correctly.

Anyway Auto232 works with Rebel-Tiger...



>  The internet server
>functions are miserable.  Almost nothing works automatically and none of the
>settings you click in are remembered one game later.


It is possible to save settings with the server profile informations.



>  The help manual in the
>program is pitiful.  I also played 10 blitz games of Tiger vs Junior 6 and
>Junior 6 won 7-3 so this thing has just made my day.


This is not serious Jim!

You cannot have a decent idea of the strength of the Tiger engine just by
playing 10 blitz games.

If you play more blitz games you'll notice that Tiger is very strong in blitz. I
don't know if it is stronger than Junior6 at this time control, but some testers
say it is.

So try again with more games, please.



>  It's hard to believe I've
>spent the last 3 months waiting for this junk.  I'm going to spend all day
>tomorrow reading the manual looking for the magic words that make everything
>work the way it should.


We are not going to leave you alone, Jim.

We are here on CCC and also on the Rebel Web site, and we can help you if you
tell us what the problem is exactly.



    Christophe



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