Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 12:50:48 01/25/00
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On January 25, 2000 at 15:41:18, Roger wrote: >Dann, I have no idea how all the things you said got equated with what I said. >Yes, banning can and should be used to get rid of obnoxious people. > >But banning isn't the difference between CCC and RGCC. Moderation is the >difference. CCC isn't a banned grouop, it's a moderated group. Banning is only >moderation in it's most extreme form. I don't think for a minute that banning or >the threat of banning is the best thing about CCC, intelligent moderation IS. Are you talking about the "Intelligent" moderated group? >Nor did I say that banning eliminated a persons free speech across all forums, >or that it pulled people's soapbox out from under them. > >When society puts someone to death, it acts to expunge that person from it's >presence. Sending someone into exile has the same goal. So does banning. >Relative to the group, the person simply DOESN'T EXIST. Functionally, the person >is dead, RELATIVE TO CCC (this is what I stated). What you stated is wrong -- completely wrong. There is a procedure for reinstatement. The guilty party waits the period of the ban and asks for reinstatement. After that period has passed, they get to post again. As long as they behave themselves, they get to stay. I do (however) support long-term bans as well. For instance, I don't think Sean Evans should ever be let back in, and I think that all of his aliases should be removed the instant he tries to use them. >Banning is so extreme that I think there are a range of intelligent alternatives >that people might want to consider. I am asking that we consider them. I don't >think it should be eliminated, I think the mechanism through which it is applied >should be changed. I would not agree to moderation where the whinging twits cannot be removed. Even their brief stays causes so much havoc it is unbelievable. The few banned members cause more problems than all of the thousands of regular posters put together. As a society, we put people into prisons and jails. That is an extreme measure. Why do you suppose that such extreme measures are taken? Do you wish that they would do away with provisions like that? Would you like Ted Bundy to babysit your daughter? An absurd parallel, to be sure. But some persons are such pests that if they were allowed to roam free here, I would not leave altogether, but this place would lose 99.9999% of its value for me.
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