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Subject: Re: Rebel Tiger Book does not work - Need Help

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 15:53:08 01/25/00

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On January 25, 2000 at 12:43:18, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On January 24, 2000 at 20:37:41, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>On January 24, 2000 at 19:49:46, Laurence Chen wrote:
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>   I've just got my Rebel-Tiger today, and I've installed in my computer. One
>>>thing I tried to do was to select the opening book, and it is grayed out. Also I
>>>noticed that the endgames tablebases does not work, it's missing the
>>>CONFIGURATION program as stated in the manual in order to activate the Ken
>>>Thompson's Endgame CD's.  So where is this utility? I must say that I am very
>>>disappointed with the Chess Patner interface specially when things don't work as
>>>it says in the manual that it's supposed to work.  Can someone provide some
>>>clues or answers? Thanks.
>>>Laurence
>>
>>Hello Laurence,
>>Welcome to the club!  If you close the program and restart it it may find it's
>>book as that's what worked for me.  Don't worry, it will lose it again during
>>the course of using the program.  I don't think the endgame tablebases work with
>>Chess Tiger.
>
>
>That's right, Chess Tiger does not use the endgame databases.
>
>
>
>>  They may work for the other Chesspartner program provided but I
>>didn't try it.
>
>
>That's right, they work with the LChess engine which is also provided with the
>product.
>
>
>
>>  The GUI was a piece of junk 8 months ago when I tested it and
>>not much has changed since then.  They have fixed a few minor bugs but it needs
>>a lot of work.  They also mention that Lokasoft does not support the auto232
>>function so if it works great but if it doesn't work don't come complaining to
>>them.
>
>
>Try it first, it works.
************
Hello Christophe,
Thanks for trying to help me.  I have found that the auto232 works great as
"Slave" but I have been unable to make it play vs Chessbase programs as
"Master".  It's not important most of the time since Chessbase as Master works
great.  I have problems when Junior crashes at the end of games sometimes.  The
Chessbase GUI then cannot save the game as it is "Frozen".  So I lose the game.
When I tried to play a "Makeup" game with Rebel Tiger as white I need
Chesspartner to act as "Master".
***********


>
>The problem is that we cannot guarantee it will work with any chess program,
>because the Auto232 protocol is itself very lousy, and has been sometimes
>implemented in a very lousy way in some chess programs.
>
>However, it works rather well. We have been able to autoplay against almost any
>chess program supporting Auto232.
>
>You even have the opportunity to let the program play white and black
>alternatively, which is an improvement over the original protocol (can be turned
>on or off).
>
>The games can be saved in a database. The percentage of wins/draws/losses is
>always displayed. You can easily configure the numbre of games to play, the
>maximum number of moves to play and the timeout before a new game is started.
>And so on.
>
>
>
>>  That's a great piece of customer relations.
>
>
>That's a piece of honesty. Other companies do not tell you that, but they
>wouldn't be able either to make any third party program use Auto232 correctly.
>
>Anyway Auto232 works with Rebel-Tiger...
>
>
>
>>  The internet server
>>functions are miserable.  Almost nothing works automatically and none of the
>>settings you click in are remembered one game later.
>
>
>It is possible to save settings with the server profile informations.
>
>
******
This may be but some instructions would help.
******
>
>>  The help manual in the
>>program is pitiful.  I also played 10 blitz games of Tiger vs Junior 6 and
>>Junior 6 won 7-3 so this thing has just made my day.
>
>
>This is not serious Jim!
>
>You cannot have a decent idea of the strength of the Tiger engine just by
>playing 10 blitz games.
>
>If you play more blitz games you'll notice that Tiger is very strong in blitz. I
>don't know if it is stronger than Junior6 at this time control, but some testers
>say it is.
>
>So try again with more games, please.
>
********
Of course I understand this.  It's just that it seemed to be the iceing on the
cake after the other problems.  As I said in another post it is now playing very
close in strength to Fritz/Junior and only time will tell how close.  I'm
satisfied that it is plenty strong.
*********
>
>>  It's hard to believe I've
>>spent the last 3 months waiting for this junk.  I'm going to spend all day
>>tomorrow reading the manual looking for the magic words that make everything
>>work the way it should.
>
>
>We are not going to leave you alone, Jim.
>
>We are here on CCC and also on the Rebel Web site, and we can help you if you
>tell us what the problem is exactly.
>
>
>
>    Christophe


Thank you very much.
Jim Walker



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