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Subject: Re: Speed and horizont effect

Author: Peter McKenzie

Date: 20:27:40 01/25/00

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On January 25, 2000 at 20:52:28, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On January 25, 2000 at 17:29:15, blass uri wrote:
>
>>On January 25, 2000 at 13:31:01, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On January 24, 2000 at 15:50:15, blass uri wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 24, 2000 at 15:34:39, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 24, 2000 at 09:10:12, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>I suspect that one commercial program is doing no capture search, but may be
>>>>>>using a static exchange evaluator to prevent the last move in a PV from
>>>>>>being an outright blunder.  Seems to be working.  No names to protect the
>>>>>>guilty, however.  :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm really curious about this. Using a SEE to "close" the search is in my
>>>>>opinion a beginner's mistake (no offense intended).
>>>>>
>>>>>It's the first thing I have done myself when I started programming chess, and I
>>>>>suspect many of us have followed the same path.
>>>>>
>>>>>But if somebody tells me it really works, then I have, once again, to reconsider
>>>>>seriously all I know about chess programming.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's not new anyway. Every now and then I realize how little I know. That's part
>>>>>of the fun.
>>>>
>>>>The program hyatt talk about is probably Junior.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>
>>>Really???
>>>
>>>Why do you think it's Junior?
>>>
>>>Junior is said to have a huge NPS. Using a SEE at the end of the tree (in every
>>>node actually) is supposed to drop your NPS considerably...
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>
>>I remember that amir ban said in the past that he does not think that Qsearch is
>>a good idea.
>>
>>I also remember that there was a position that proved it when Junior never did a
>>mistake at small depths that other programs did because of Qsearch.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>OK. I hope Amir reads this and can say if it is correct.

Maybe they do a simplified qsearch where you just do recaptures on the
destination square of the last fullwidth move?  I played with this once, it
isn't too bad.  I eventually discarded it, probably for the wrong reasons :-)


>
>I am surprised, but I like to be surprised this way.
>
>
>    Christophe



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