Author: Enrique Irazoqui
Date: 05:19:17 01/26/00
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On January 26, 2000 at 08:08:47, Albert Silver wrote: >On January 26, 2000 at 07:17:05, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: > >>About being "World champion, the rest is details", it's a classic case of >>hypostatization, which is "to attribute real identity to a concept." >> >>1. We create a Swiss tournament of 11 rounds and name it World Championship. >>2. Program X wins the tournament and becomes World Champion. >>3. We are to believe that program X is the best because it is the World Champion >>and the rest is details. >> >>If this 11 round tournament would have given another name, for instance ICCA >>championship, steps 2 and 3 wouldn't cross anybody's mind. >> >>With this I don't intend to attack Shredder 4, Junior 4.6 or Fritz 3, all fine >>programs and none of them the best, but to question the meaning of a name. >> >>No human would become world champion after playing a total of 11 games in his >>life, and I don't think programs should either. >> >>Enrique > >Not that I disagree with your arguments, but if one does create a championship >in which all participants are in agreement with (why participate if not?), then >I don't think you can discredit the winner I don't have the slightest intention of "discrediting the winner". My point was another one and I made it before the ICCA championship: "world champion" means, to many, the best there is; an 11 round Swiss tournament is not the right way to determine which program is the best. > with complaints about luck just >because you don't like the outcome. It is not a matter of likes and dislikes, but of forced believes, namely that a a chess player, human or program, must be considered World Champion after winning only one tournament of 11 rounds. It has never been acceptable in human chess and I fail to see why it should be any different in computer chess. Enrique > Why not just do away with the championship >and declare whomever one likes as WC? Everyone had their shot, and luck or not, >Shredder won. One may disagree that Shredder is the undisputed strongest program >available, but not that it is the WC. > > Albert Silver
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