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Subject: Re: SSDF Junior 6 K6-2 .....What should the result be? OOPS

Author: Chessfun

Date: 05:36:19 01/26/00

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On January 26, 2000 at 07:28:32, Tina Long wrote:

>On January 26, 2000 at 07:21:35, Tina Long wrote:
>
>>On January 25, 2000 at 22:27:39, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>On January 25, 2000 at 07:55:48, Tony Hedlund wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 25, 2000 at 00:59:39, Tina Long wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 24, 2000 at 14:52:31, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On January 24, 2000 at 14:19:53, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>>>Thorsten, an elo calculation can be done for a new program only if its opponents
>>>>>>>have a known, well established elo (with many games, and a small error margin).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>correct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This is why it is better to play against older program than against new programs
>>>>>>>on 450, because the new programs have a too big error margin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>no problem with me. the problem i have is with very old prgs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's maybe the 3rd or 4th time I repeat this to you. The SSDF results are VALID.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>its valid but senseless.
>>>>><snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>To decide who is rightest here I need to know:
>>>>>What is the expected result in an 18 game match between two human players who
>>>>>are rated 2620 & 2505?
>>>>
>>>>12-6
>>>>
>>>>>What is the rating achieved by both players if the result is 14.5 - 3.5?
>>>>
>>>>It indicates a ratingdifference with 238 points, 2681-2443.
>>>>
>>>>>I will make my own opinion if I think the margin of error is too great.
>>>>>(My interest here is also STILL in CM6k & it's flogging of Sparc 20mhz, and
>>>>>programs on 486/66's)
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks to anyone who can answer those two questions.
>>>>>
>>>>>Tina Long
>>>>
>>>>Tony
>>>
>>>Over only 18 games how can anyone judge. What is the current score
>>>with these two programs?. from what I read a lot closer than the
>>>original 14.5 - 3.5.
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>WOW!!!  message 91737: result is now 17-15 which means Shredder has won 11.5 -
>>2.5 in the last 14 games.  WOW!!!
>>
>>Granted the sample is way too small & this latest result is wonderful evidence
>>of that.
>>
>>I can't wait to see if Thorsten is going to comment.
>>
>>Thank You!
>>Tina Long
>
>Sorry guys,
>91769 corrects that typo to be 17 - 5.
>
>Please withdraw the WOW's & insert "that's to be expected's".
>
>Sorry Thorsten ;>}
>
>Tina Long

Glad you caught 91769, I had already seen 91737. :-) lol
Thanks.




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