Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 05:48:03 01/26/00
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On January 26, 2000 at 08:26:42, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >On January 26, 2000 at 07:45:02, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>On January 26, 2000 at 07:17:05, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >> >>>About being "World champion, the rest is details", it's a classic case of >>>hypostatization, which is "to attribute real identity to a concept." >>> >>>1. We create a Swiss tournament of 11 rounds and name it World Championship. >>>2. Program X wins the tournament and becomes World Champion. >>>3. We are to believe that program X is the best because it is the World Champion >>>and the rest is details. >>> >>>If this 11 round tournament would have given another name, for instance ICCA >>>championship, steps 2 and 3 wouldn't cross anybody's mind. >>> >>>With this I don't intend to attack Shredder 4, Junior 4.6 or Fritz 3, all fine >>>programs and none of them the best, but to question the meaning of a name. >>> >>>No human would become world champion after playing a total of 11 games in his >>>life, and I don't think programs should either. >>> >>>Enrique >> >>Would you knock off the Champions League? It's the same system and generally >>accepted. The one who wins is the strongest. > >Therefore Junior 4.6 was the strongest, and you know it wasn't. > >You can't compare chess and football, for the same reason that you can't compare >apples and oranges. But if you want to stick to your analogy, imagine a >Champions League consisting of 5 minute games. > >Imagine also that FIDE organizes a World Championship in the form of a Swiss >tournament of 11 rounds. Whould you consider the winner as World Champion? The >Las Vegas thing crowned Khalifman as World Champion. Who believes in it? >Kasparov is World Champion after winning many matches of all sort and an >extraordinary career. We all believe he is the World Champion. > >Enrique That was not my point. When Barcelona wins the Champions League or Holland becomes world champion does that mean they are the strongest? Ed
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