Author: Bruce Moreland
Date: 16:52:40 01/26/00
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On January 26, 2000 at 10:45:32, jonathon smith wrote: >On January 26, 2000 at 10:07:30, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >>Tell your alter ego that he demanded the deletion of his password/username. We >>kindly obliged. >Enrique Irazoqui, on 17/March/1998, by email: "They told me to ban you, but I >refused, then I saw your post on rgcc and I ran back to them [Founder's Group] >as fast as my legs would carry me. Now I have to do it". > >Ed Schroeder etc., on 17/March/1998, by public post in rgcc: "Chris Whittington >is not welcome in the CCC" > >Password/username combination was changed 17/March/1998. > >Bruce Moreland during his first moderation period: "Chris was banned". > >The ban is a relatively trivial matter. It's the endless lies afterwards that >ChrisW says he despises. I think that I would stipulate the facts you present. I don't see any reason to doubt them. I have never understood why Enrique keep trying to justify Chris' current ban by suggesting that he asked to be banned. We had a case of the same thing today, where Chris Carson asked to have his account deleted. What that means to him is that he expects to get "no such account" when he tries to log on. Of course, he would be free to create a new one, at a time of his own choosing. Five minutes from now, next year, never, it's *his* choice. This is a lot different from changing someone's password, which is how a ban is executed. I don't have anything personal against Enrique, but I think that his argument is Kafkaesque, and having to endure a Kafkaesque situation by yourself is torture, and I don't wish that on anyone. I tried to give those guys the opportunity to admit that this had been done by mistake, and that what had been done was not what had been intended, that what they had intended to do was delete the account, but that Tim had misinterpreted what he had been told, and banned it instead. This would resolve this whole thing immediately, as nothing more than an honest mistake, compounded by a little bit of hatred. I got Bob to admit at one point that he never realized that Chris had been banned, he thought that his account had been removed, as he had asked. So Bob bought into my thesis and I thought everything would be fine. But Enrique wouldn't admit that it was a mistake. I don't know what his motive is for repeating what is in effect a "Chris asked to be banned" argument, but regardless of how poor the relationship is between Chris and I, I will not allow him to repeat this without denouncing this use of what amounts to rhetorical torture. bruce
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