Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 19:12:36 01/26/00
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On January 26, 2000 at 21:51:53, Michael Cummings wrote: >On January 26, 2000 at 13:45:46, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On January 26, 2000 at 13:07:27, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On January 26, 2000 at 12:32:32, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>> >>>>On January 26, 2000 at 12:19:27, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 26, 2000 at 12:14:41, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On January 26, 2000 at 11:20:38, Charles Unruh wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In the past there was a person here named I think Shaun Graham. Hyatt was >>>>>>>constantly attacking him. Graham finally was fed up and in post said he would >>>>>>>stay out of Hyatt's posts if Hyatt stayed out of his. Hyatt in a post said >>>>>>>that he agreed and would stay out. A little while later Hyatt started >>>>>>>posting(attacking IMHO) in Graham's posts again Graham basically blew up and >>>>>>>told him to stop, and called Hyatt a liar. Hyatt basically agreed that he lied >>>>>>>and scoffed. Graham enfuriated started a thread urging protection from the >>>>>>>moderators to protect him because he felt since Hyatt was violating an agreement >>>>>>>made in writing here that Hyatt's action was therefore uncalled for Antagonism >>>>>>>and should be stopped. Then the moderators banned Graham for asking for help(I >>>>>>>was there and saw it!). Of course there are some new moderators now, but they >>>>>>>seem to be quite similar except for Amir Ban who was in that old group of >>>>>>>moderators. Who now after having to deal with the bloodletting attacks of Hyatt >>>>>>>himself may have at least a different attitude when it comes to THE HYATT. >>>>>> >>>>>>Moderators will moderate according to the charter, not according to agreements >>>>>>made between specific members. If you believe that you made a binding agreement >>>>>>with Dr. Hyatt, and that he broke it, feel free to take it up with him, via >>>>>>email, or adopt some other remedy outside CCC. >>>>>> >>>>>>I was a moderator at the time that complaint was made, and you complained that >>>>>>Hyatt should be banned over a completely on-topic non-abusive post. He simply >>>>>>responded to something you said. You wrote an extremely abusive post in >>>>>>response. You then ignored the warning you received, did something further, and >>>>>>were tossed out. >>>>>> >>>>>>It was a bizarre situation. >>>>>> >>>>>>Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>>bruce >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>You make it sound like Graham and Unruh are actually the same person. Is it what >>>>>really you meant? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Christophe >>>> >>>>It they aren't, I apologize. But I think they are using the same email address. >>>> >>>>bruce >>> >>> >>>Why is it possible to enter CCC again when you are clearly identified as >>>somebody that has been banned? >>> >>>Is it that simple? Just subscribe again with a different name, without even >>>having to change your email address? >>> >>> >>> Christophe >> >> >>It is moot. Because if they filter on email addresses, the guilty just go to >>hotmail and set up another email address and the cycle continues. Very >>difficult to prevent.. > >You said this once before that you could not trace hotmail. But the hotmail >accounts I have if I send something, when you click on the source of the email, >it does have my IP number, this is the same for all other people who have their >ISP email and a hotmail accounts that I know, How can people get a different IP >when using hotmail, their IP number is sent with it. > >If I sent you my ISP email and my hotmail email, they have the same IP number. The problem is that you can request as many as you want. And also on other free email servers as well. And then post thru an anonymous replayer. And make it essentially impossible to track it back to the source without a lot of cooperation from people that are too busy doing other things to cooperate. Unless you do something illegal or serious enough to warrant a legal tort. Then the various sites can be forced to reveal the person's actual address/identity... But that is not common and not easy to do...
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