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Subject: Re: It all depends on parameters!

Author: Chessfun

Date: 20:28:44 01/26/00

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On January 26, 2000 at 23:06:07, Mark Young wrote:

>On January 26, 2000 at 22:53:54, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On January 26, 2000 at 20:59:52, Frederic Friedel wrote:
>>
>>>I checked this position with my Fritz 6, running on a 450 MHz PII with 64 MB
>>>hashtables. As you can see in the first protocol below (captured by
>>>right-clicking the analysis window and selecting "Clip analysis") the program
>>>finds 1.Nxg5 in 2 min. 31 sec. at 11/36 ply.
>>>
>>>If I turn up the aggressiveness from zero to two (by clicking the engine name
>>>and using "engine parameters") then the program find the move in 14 seconds at a
>>>depth of 9/32 (second protocol).
>>>
>>>If I switch the null-move function off (by using "engine parameters" to set the
>>>selectivity from its default 2 to zero) Fritz doesn't find the move in 14
>>>minutes (protocol 3).
>>>
>>>
>>>Analysis by Fritz 6 -- protocol 1
>>>=================================
>>>
>>>[First eight ply cut]
>>>
>>>1.Bf2--
>>>  ²  (0.59)   depth: 9/28   00:00:01  341kN
>>>1.Bf2 g4 2.g3 Bxg3 3.hxg3 Nxg3 4.Bxg3 Qxg3+ 5.Kh1 gxf3
>>>  ²  (0.53)   depth: 9/28   00:00:01  542kN
>>>1.g3
>>>  ²  (0.56)   depth: 9/30   00:00:05  1804kN
>>>1.g3 Bxe3+ 2.Qxe3 Qb6 3.Nd4 Ng7 4.Bxg5 hxg5 5.Qxg5 e5
>>>  ±  (0.75)   depth: 9/33   00:00:07  2649kN
>>>1.g3 Bh3 2.Ng2 gxh4 3.gxf4 Nxf4 4.Qe4 Qb6+ 5.Nd4 Nxd3
>>>  ±  (0.88)   depth: 10/36   00:00:30  10549kN
>>>1.g3 Bxe3+ 2.Qxe3 Qb6 3.Nd4 e5 4.Bxg5 hxg5 5.Qxg5+ Ng7
>>>  ±  (0.78)   depth: 11/36   00:01:08  24400kN
>>>1.Be1
>>>  ±  (0.81)   depth: 11/36   00:01:37  33866kN
>>>1.Be1 g4 2.Nh4 Bxh2+ 3.Kh1 Nf4 4.Qf2 e6 5.Bh7+ Kxh7
>>>  ±  (1.22)   depth: 11/36   00:02:05  43248kN
>>3>1.Nxg5
>>>  ±  (1.25)   depth: 11/36   00:02:31  52063kN
>>>1.Nxg5 Bxh2+ 2.Kh1 Nf4 3.Nxf7 Nxe2 4.Nxh6+ Kh8 5.Rf7 Bf5
>>>  +-  (1.47)   depth: 11/36   00:02:47  57590kN
>>>1.Nxg5!
>>>  +-  (1.78)   depth: 12/34   00:03:49  79170kN
>>>1.Nxg5! Bxh2+ 2.Kh1 Nf4 3.Nxf7 Kg7 4.Qd2 Rf8 5.Kxh2 Rxf7
>>>  +-  (2.72)   depth: 12/34   00:05:34  114549kN
>>>1.Nxg5 Nf6 2.Nf3 Qd6 3.Nf5 Bxf5 4.Bxf5 Rad8 5.Rad1 Nd5
>>>  +-  (2.94)   depth: 13/38   00:10:55  225004kN
>>>
>>>
>>>Analysis by Fritz 6 -- protocol 2
>>>=================================
>>>1.g4 Bxe3+ 2.Qxe3 Qf4 3.Bf2 Qxg4+ 4.Kh1 Nf4 5.Rg1 Qh5
>>>  ±  (1.00)   depth: 8/25   00:00:01  415kN
>>>1.g4--
>>>  ²  (0.69)   depth: 9/29   00:00:04  1257kN
>>>1.g4 Nf6 2.Be1 e5 3.Bf5 Bxe3+ 4.Qxe3 Bxf5 5.gxf5 Qb6
>>>  ²  (0.66)   depth: 9/29   00:00:04  1449kN
>>>1.g3
>>>  ²  (0.69)   depth: 9/32   00:00:10  3294kN
>>>1.g3 Bxe3+ 2.Qxe3 Qb6 3.Nd4 Ng7 4.Bxg5 hxg5 5.Qxg5 e5
>>>  ±  (0.75)   depth: 9/32   00:00:11  3803kN
>>>1.Nxg5
>>>  ±  (0.78)   depth: 9/32   00:00:14  4784kN
>>>1.Nxg5 Bxh2+ 2.Kh1 Nf4 3.Nxf7 Nxe2 4.Nxh6+ Kh8 5.Rf7 Bf5
>>>  +-  (1.50)   depth: 9/32   00:00:18  6293kN
>>>1.Nxg5!
>>>  +-  (1.81)   depth: 10/29   00:00:25  8477kN
>>>1.Nxg5! Bxh2+ 2.Kh1 Nf4 3.Nxf7 Kg7 4.Qd2 Nxd3 5.Qxd3 Bf4
>>>  +-  (2.47)   depth: 10/30   00:00:34  11732kN
>>>1.Nxg5 Bxh2+ 2.Kh1 Nf4 3.Nxf7 Kg7 4.Qd2 Nxd3 5.Qxd3 Bf4
>>>  +-  (2.72)   depth: 11/32   00:01:03  21698kN
>>>
>>>
>>>Analysis by Fritz 6 -- protocol 3
>>>=================================
>>>1.Bf2 g4 2.g3 gxf3 3.Qxf3 Bxe3 4.Bxe3 Nf6 5.Bxb5
>>>  ±  (0.91)   depth: 8/27   00:00:06  1967kN
>>>1.Bf2--
>>>  ²  (0.59)   depth: 9/26   00:00:17  5737kN
>>>1.Bf2 g4 2.g3 Bxg3 3.hxg3 Nxg3 4.Bxg3 Qxg3+ 5.Kh1 gxf3
>>>  ²  (0.53)   depth: 9/31   00:00:29  9144kN
>>>1.g4
>>>  ²  (0.56)   depth: 9/31   00:00:38  11664kN
>>>1.Be1
>>>  ²  (0.59)   depth: 9/31   00:00:58  17483kN
>>>1.Be1 g4 2.Nh4 Bxh2+ 3.Kh1 Nf4 4.Qf2 e5 5.Bxb5 cxb5
>>>  ±  (0.91)   depth: 9/31   00:01:12  21502kN
>>>1.Be1 g4 2.Nh4 Bxh2+ 3.Kh1 Nf4 4.Qf2 e6 5.Bc2 Nh5
>>>  ±  (0.88)   depth: 10/33   00:03:09  56845kN
>>>1.Be1!
>>>  ±  (1.19)   depth: 11/39   00:14:32  261770kN
>>
>>
>>Hi,
>>  Can you tell me if this analysis printout is a feature
>>from F6?? or is it with Chessbase using F6 engine.
>>Thanks.
>
>Clipping analysis is not new to ChessBase Programs or to Fritz 6. It is however
>done through the GUI of Fritz 6 or Hiarcs 7.32 etc. It also works with any
>engine you have loaded, not just with the Fritz 6 engine.

Thanks Mark,
           I had seen the clip analysis there always assumed you
would just get what was in the window.
Thanks.






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