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Subject: Re: DB just another program

Author: walter irvin

Date: 04:37:24 01/27/00

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On January 27, 2000 at 01:21:28, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

>On January 26, 2000 at 18:00:29, walter irvin wrote:
>
>>Deep Blue has great results to its credit but it has had great hardware .the
>>following programs at equal speeds are as good or better .
>>
>>1.cm 6000
>>2.fritz 6
>>3.junior 6
>>4.m-chess 8
>>5.shredder 4
>>6.tiger 12
>>
>>at equal mhz programs like fritz 6 would get more nps im sure.
>
>Equal MHz, eh?  Let's calculate the total MHz of DB's chess chips:  2.4 MHz/chip
>* 480 chips = 1152 MHz.  After you factor in that DB was only getting about 30%
>efficiency, it was still doing 200M NPS, so that translates to 173611 NPS/MHz.
>I don't think Fritz can calculate 173K NPS on a 1 MHz machine.  Sorry.
>
>>they would search
>>much deeper than deep blue.
>
>Fritz on an 1152 MHz machine might get 14 ply at 3 min/move.  DB was getting the
>same.  Fritz has selective-search (null-move) errors.  DB hasn't.  DB extends
>_way more_ than Fritz, so it sees way more than Fritz.
>
>>in computer vs computer matches speed kills , thats
>>why on the ssdf , programs on faster hardware get inflated ratings .
>
>At equal MHz speeds, it's shown that DB is faster.  Therefore, by your logic, it
>would win.
>At equal NPS, the programs are the same speed.  Which one will win, then?

i thought it had more computing power than that , surely it did .a 1 ghz kyrotec
athlon is available ,you can get that less than $3000 . i thought deep blue was
at least a $100,000 machine .



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