Author: jonathon smith
Date: 07:11:14 01/27/00
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On January 27, 2000 at 07:39:52, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >It just happens that this is exactly how it went and why we, all the founders by >unanimous decision, decided to "honor his request." Nothing kafkaiesque about >it, but I admit it was messy. Chris didn't do anything special in CCC, except >once that he got a yellow card, I believe. "Honoring his "request", as Bob well >puts it, or his banning, which in practice amounts to be the same, was based on >the "outrageous (quoting Bob again) statements in rgcc". Therefore what you did was a banning. As also confirmed by your email on the same day 17/March stating: "They told me to ban you, but I refused, then I saw your post on rgcc and I ran back to them [Founder's Group] as fast as my legs would carry me. Now I have to do it" and also by the public humilation rgcc posting: >Rolf Tueschen and Chris Whittington might be on the other hand just two >contributors to r.g.c.c., which makes the concept of the CCC board seem even >more attractive, since both of them are not welcome there. ChrisW says he assumes 'not welcome' = banned. Now, here is the CCC Charter, taken from the FAQ on the CCC site: CCC Charter: What types of posts will be allowed on these message boards? Once a member gains access to the message board, he may read all messages and post new or response messages with the proviso that these new or response messages: Are, within reason, on the topic of computer chess Are not abusive in nature Do not contain personal and/or libelous attacks on others Are not flagrant commercial exhortations Are not of questionable legal status. A panel of moderators has the power to erase specific messages that violate the spirit of the charter of the Computer-Chess Club, and to take, if necessary, suitable sanctions against offenders." End of Charter. Please explain how it was that ChrisW broke this charter and was banned when he hade not posted anything to the CCC newsgroup for the previous five months? Were ChrisW's posts to the CCC board during that period "within reason, on the topic of computer chess"? Since he didn't post anything, did ChrisW violate this Charter point? Were ChrisW's posts to the CCC board during that period "abusive in nature"? Since he didn't post anything, did ChrisW violate this Charter point? Were ChrisW's posts to the CCC board during that period "containing personal and/or libelous attacks on others"? Since he didn't post anything, did ChrisW violate this Charter point? Were ChrisW's posts to the CCC board during that period "flagrant commercial exhortations"? Since he didn't post anything, did ChrisW violate this Charter point? Were ChrisW's posts to the CCC board during that period "of questionable legal status"? Since he didn't post anything, did ChrisW violate this Charter point? Were ChrisW's posts to the CCC board during that period "violating the spirit of the charter of the Computer-Chess Club"? Since he didn't post anything, did ChrisW violate this Charter point? Did the Panel of Moderators / Founder's Group have "the power to erase messages... to take, if necessary, suitable sanctions against offenders" against someone who did not post into the CCC for five months? Please explain how you write this on 17 March 1998: "They told me to ban you, but I refused, then I saw your post on rgcc and I ran back to them [Founder's Group] as fast as my legs would carry me. Now I have to do it" and then spent almost two years months denying it was a ban. Please explain how you signed the rgcc humiliation document: "[ChrisW] not welcome there [CCC]" and then spent almost two years denying it was a ban. Will any of these phrases help? "Those were the Rolf times and another Rolf seemed too much for all of us" "... but I admit it was messy" "It was not that we went witch hunting" "Nothing kafkaiesque about it"
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