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Subject: Re: DB just another program

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 14:08:49 01/27/00

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On January 27, 2000 at 15:33:44, Tim Mirabile wrote:

>On January 27, 2000 at 02:45:39, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>
>>First, a postulate: Any increase in *search depth* will correlate to a ratings
>>increase.  I believe this to be a fairly linear curve.  This will never give
>>diminishing returns.
>
>This is a very big assumption right there.  Hard to believe that the rating
>difference between a pair of programs searching one ply vs two ply will give the
>same rating difference as programs searching nine vs ten ply and as programs
>searching 30 vs 31 ply.

Yes.  Intutitively, a program searching one ply deeper would be many times
better, because it has many times as much information.  Consider the starting
board position and the number of possibilities that spring forth from there:

White(1): perft 1
total moves=20
To examine our immediate move only, we must consider 20 board positions.

White(1): perft 2
total moves=400
To examine our all possible replies, we must consider 400 board positions.

White(1): perft 3
total moves=8902
To examine our all possible replies to those replies, we must consider 8,902
board positions.

White(1): perft 4
total moves=197281
To examine our all possible replies to those replies to those replies, we must
consider 197,281 board positions.

White(1): perft 5
total moves=4865609
To examine our all possible replies to those replies to those replies to those
replies, we must consider 4,865,609 board positions.


White(1): perft 6
total moves=119060324
After just one more level, we have 119,060,324 possibilities.

So as we read and examine a successive ply, we are gathering a large multiple of
the previous information (along with all that it contains).

Hence, by intuition, an additional ply should make us play many times better
than before.  It does not, so intuition is foiled.



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