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Subject: Re: next deep blue

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 22:35:20 01/27/00

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On January 27, 2000 at 21:20:46, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On January 27, 2000 at 14:21:19, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>
>>On January 27, 2000 at 13:00:39, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On January 27, 2000 at 00:06:19, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 25, 2000 at 21:26:19, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 25, 2000 at 13:33:36, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>It seems weird to me that when Ed Schroder says Rebel does better without
>>>>>>null-move than with it, people believe it, but people criticize the DB team for
>>>>>>not using it (e.g. from your text above: "by not using a good, known pruning
>>>>>>system...").
>>>>>
>>>>>If the DB team did not have enough time, they could simply take the null move
>>>>>algorithm because there is documentation available on it.
>>>>>
>>>>>However null move is not the final say. Rebel does very well with ANOTHER
>>>>>pruning system. Junior does very well with ANOTHER pruning system as well. And
>>>>>there are other programs that do fine without null move, one of which I know
>>>>>very well.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, and DB does very well with ANOTHER pruning system too.  What's your point?
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>My point is that they claimed that they did not use one. Several of us, looking
>>>at the apparent branching factor shown in the DB log files, have doubts about
>>>this.
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>
>>Where did they claim that they did not use one?  In their published work they
>>clearly stated the contrary.
>>
>>Dave
>
>
>What did they say?
>
>
>    Christophe

Argh, I can't find the paper!

In the software, there are some full-width plies, then some selective plies.  In
the hardware, there are some full-width plies again.

That is from memory though.

Maybe Ernst can pull out his copy of Search Control in Deep Blue?

Dave



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