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Subject: Re: The art of debate

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:29:13 01/28/00

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On January 28, 2000 at 11:34:44, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On January 28, 2000 at 08:09:49, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>As I said... he _believes_ it is the best, because of the test games he played
>>vs micros to test this feeling.  But in writing, it is logical to be
>>conservative so that you don't have to retract something once someone proves
>>your statement was "too much"...
>
>I was thinking about this the other day...
>If MChess Pro runs at ~2,500 NPS on a P5/133, then it was almost certainly
>running at < 5k NPS when Hsu ran his "micro experiment."
>So if Hsu was running his chip at 100k NPS, he was outsearching MChess by a
>factor of 20. It's not a huge surprise that DB won.
>
>The reason I like MChess is because its evaluation function is obviously
>extremely sophisticated, and it's proven itself over and over and over, over the
>course of ~2 (?) decades.
>
>I think it's pretty presumptuous to say that function X is better than MChess's
>function, unless possibly function X was written by Mark Uniakle or Johann de
>Koening. (Whose functions are also sophisticated and well-proven.)
>
>-Tom


I don't remember Mchess being in the mix.  Genius X and Rebel Y were the two
he mentioned to me in the original 10 games.  X and Y I don't remember.  But
we know it was in the 1996 time frame so we could guess...

I won't venture whether mchess has a good or bad eval.  It is all relative.
Against computers it does (in general) poorly.  Against humans, it seems much
better.



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