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Subject: Re: The Data speaks for itself! Rebel is GM strength

Author: Howard Exner

Date: 22:02:13 01/28/00

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On January 28, 2000 at 19:29:36, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On January 28, 2000 at 19:21:15, John Warfield wrote:
>
>>On January 28, 2000 at 16:49:13, Jeff Lischer wrote:
>>
>>>I calculate 2521 including all 23 games Rebel has played (Anand-2, GM
>>>Challenge-15, Russek-4, and Israeli league-2).
>>
>>
>>Looks like Rebel is GM Strength, no question. Ofcourse the rating would even be
>>higher if only the k6-3 600 were used
>
>Why do you say that?  It has not achieved the levels required to be a FIDE GM as
>far as norms go.

Forget the norms route, as we all now those will never be on the table for
computers.
Look at the rating and play over the games. Call it either a weak GM or a very
strong IM ... it's rating fits into both. The statement, "looks like Rebel is GM
strength" is not saying that Rebel has the gone through the hoops to get the
coveted title, rather its rating falls clearly into the GM range. Chris Carson's
summary of GM ratings covered the range and averages for a GM.
>
>Looks more like an IM to me, but a very good one.  Still early.  Wait until the
>GM's start playing more anticomputer chess.

How long are we going to have to wait for this? How do we know the opponents
are not already anticomputer aware and that chess being the complex beast that
it is, will not simply allow one opponent to dictate the course of a game at
will. Also, how much in depth studying would it take for a GM or IM to unlock
the secrets of antiGM play? Don't most GM's and IM's own a computer? Kasparov
openly states that he uses them to test out new opening ideas. One would think
lesser mortals would follow his example.

>I predict a plummet for all
>computer programs in contests with people once they get the hang of it.

Rebel's games vs humans are public knowledge know, plus opponents can go out and
buy it, yet my feeling is it's rating will only move forward at a slow steady
pace.

Dann, don't make me force you to write yet another poem! :)





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