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Subject: Re: What's going on with the Tiger/Diep grudge match?

Author: Stephen A. Boak

Date: 12:59:23 01/29/00

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On January 29, 2000 at 11:07:55, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On January 29, 2000 at 02:47:01, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On January 29, 2000 at 01:17:56, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On January 28, 2000 at 16:58:58, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 28, 2000 at 15:38:35, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>We had a flurry of postings and now silence for a while.
>>>>>
>>>>>Are the games still being played?  Do we have game scores and PGN?
>>>>>
>>>>>Is the whole thing tabled?
>>>>>
>>>>>???
>>>>
>>> it was 1-1
>>>

If I follow correctly, this match has started 3 times!  Well, I guess terms and
conditions are important, as any contractor knows.  :)

Can the casual but interested observer look forward to a series of challenge
games to complete at least one of those matches?  Or will there be some as yet
unknown reason to devise a fourth or even fifth match?

Let Thorsten continue to Rum-m-m-m-ble!  Have at it!

  --Steve


>>>the other game was from a different setup with both with book.
>>
>>
>>You agreed, because Diep did not play another opening (lack of randomness), that
>>both programs would play with books again, and that every opening position would
>>be given to both programs to compensate for any book advantage (if any).
>
>No this is a different match setup.
>It's a lie from thorsten that diep doesn't lack randomness.
>it just repeats same line a lot before chosing a different move.
>It definitely doesn't repeat it each game.
>
>In newer versions that problem is gone even completely as i have a new
>random generator.
>
>>That's why Thorsten played the 3rd game with books on.
>>
>>Tiger won it, so that's 2-1 in favor of Tiger.
>
>>If you don't agree, what do you propose?
>
>we talk about a different match without having diep play that line with
>black colors. in that match with book against with book it's 1-0 now
>for tiger.
>
>in the tiger without - diep with  it's 1-1 now.
>
>simple as that!
>
>note that diep winboard works under MCS6.5 with auto232 player i saw.
>
>>    Christophe
>>
>>
>>
>>>>As far as I know the match is still going on. Thorsten is still playing it, but
>>>>he also has his "Millenium tournament" running.
>>>>
>>>>The latest score was 2-1 in favor of Tiger.
>>>>
>>>>It has been decided that the programs will be allowed to use their opening books
>>>>(initially Tiger was playing without book), but each opening will be played
>>>>twice. This way each progam will get the same opening position, and the effect
>>>>of killer lines (if any are played) will be dimished.
>>>>
>>>>This decision was taken because of lack of randomness in Diep's and Tiger's
>>>>opening choice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Christophe



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