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Subject: Re: What's going on with the Tiger/Diep grudge match?

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 17:13:16 01/29/00

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On January 29, 2000 at 15:59:23, Stephen A. Boak wrote:

>On January 29, 2000 at 11:07:55, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On January 29, 2000 at 02:47:01, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On January 29, 2000 at 01:17:56, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 28, 2000 at 16:58:58, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 28, 2000 at 15:38:35, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>We had a flurry of postings and now silence for a while.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Are the games still being played?  Do we have game scores and PGN?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is the whole thing tabled?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>???
>>>>>
>>>> it was 1-1
>>>>
>
>If I follow correctly, this match has started 3 times!  Well, I guess terms and
>conditions are important, as any contractor knows.  :)
>
>Can the casual but interested observer look forward to a series of challenge
>games to complete at least one of those matches?  Or will there be some as yet
>unknown reason to devise a fourth or even fifth match?
>
>Let Thorsten continue to Rum-m-m-m-ble!  Have at it!
>
>  --Steve


I must admit that I am a little bit confused myself with this.

I just agreed on a match, sent my program, and did not expect this kind of
trouble...


    Christophe



>>>>the other game was from a different setup with both with book.
>>>
>>>
>>>You agreed, because Diep did not play another opening (lack of randomness), that
>>>both programs would play with books again, and that every opening position would
>>>be given to both programs to compensate for any book advantage (if any).
>>
>>No this is a different match setup.
>>It's a lie from thorsten that diep doesn't lack randomness.
>>it just repeats same line a lot before chosing a different move.
>>It definitely doesn't repeat it each game.
>>
>>In newer versions that problem is gone even completely as i have a new
>>random generator.
>>
>>>That's why Thorsten played the 3rd game with books on.
>>>
>>>Tiger won it, so that's 2-1 in favor of Tiger.
>>
>>>If you don't agree, what do you propose?
>>
>>we talk about a different match without having diep play that line with
>>black colors. in that match with book against with book it's 1-0 now
>>for tiger.
>>
>>in the tiger without - diep with  it's 1-1 now.
>>
>>simple as that!
>>
>>note that diep winboard works under MCS6.5 with auto232 player i saw.
>>
>>>    Christophe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>As far as I know the match is still going on. Thorsten is still playing it, but
>>>>>he also has his "Millenium tournament" running.
>>>>>
>>>>>The latest score was 2-1 in favor of Tiger.
>>>>>
>>>>>It has been decided that the programs will be allowed to use their opening books
>>>>>(initially Tiger was playing without book), but each opening will be played
>>>>>twice. This way each progam will get the same opening position, and the effect
>>>>>of killer lines (if any are played) will be dimished.
>>>>>
>>>>>This decision was taken because of lack of randomness in Diep's and Tiger's
>>>>>opening choice.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    Christophe



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